I am gonna say this and leave it at that Julie...Since you feel the need to warn admin about me, rofl, which is funny as fuck considering I have NEVER gotten in trouble on VR and never broke TOS to begin with...
But just so we are clear I never hid who I am on ANY of my profiles, I believe if your dumbass goes and looks and bothers to actually read, it states clearly who I am. It's not the first time I have been Acolyte and won't be the last. I have never had the position yanked from me, thank you very much..
Now, THAT is all I am going to say on the matter because I have better things to do than try and trade words with people who keep repeating words like idiot and retard, etc about others but can't look in the damn mirror and point fingers back at themselves. I have no use for those who can't accept responsibility for their own actions.
And you do not see me whining, for the most part I have remained silent until now with the exception of ONE journal entry in which I was not whining or complaining. Am I feeling guilty? Not any fucking more after the constant bullshit since then. Why? Because I didn't demote someone for speaking their own thoughts and opinions? Last I fucking checked this was AMERICA and we still have the right to Freedom of Speech and it was not said in VR but in group text over the phone therefore, not applicable to VR rules. I did ask for it not to turn into a Cat bashing session, but I cannot force anyone to do anything they don't want to do. Why did I not reverse my ACM's decision? Because he was doing his job. Both Nicole and Henry were. If I didn't want him to do what he was put in position to do and was just going it reverse it, then I wouldn't have the need for any ACMs at all.
As for what you did, that's not my job to give a damn about. You weren't my ACM, and I don't give a shit but I do give a shit that my coven was involved because someone didn't use the brain they were born with. A CM should be careful and make sure they can trust who they give ACM or trade master powers to - Case in point my own coven at the same time. If a CM puts an ACM in position who does something despicable, then the CM cannot go complain to the admin team because the CM was stupid enough to trust the wrong person.
Therefore, I have not said a single word. So, with that said ms TOS breaker who has been busted more than once, I suggest YOU keep MY name OUT of YOUR MOUTH, because I haven't said shit.
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Add on edit: This is NOT nor has it always been about Toxic. It has always been about accepting a member in Hell who had no reason to be sent there. ACM seeking advice or not, Hell is NOT a holding tank for members. That member should have gone to HER coven and not Hell, which is why Hell's ACMs all raised holy hell about it in the first place. Hell is a prison for members in VR who cannot behave, not for members who have done nothing wrong and should not have been used as such, ever. The ACM deliberately brought Hell into the drama and KNEW it was going to stir the shit, but didn't care. She both disrespected and tarnished the name of the Coven and its members. If you don't like what I am saying, tough shit, cry me a river, build a fucking bridge, get the fuck over it then go find yourself a piece of chalk to outline yourself as a crime victim as you and your clique seem to always do. The whole site knows y'alls M.O. by now.
Stay on your little corner of VR and I will stay on mine, As far as I am concerned, certain people on thie site simply do not exist any longer. You are dead to me. I will not respond to anymore journals, messages, texts or phone calls or anything else. Y'all have gotten the last messages from me you will ever get. I got no time for petty ass bullshit.
I'd say it's funny how they try to keep perpetuating things, but it's not. It's really not. This game is old and tiresom.
lol, I agree with Dray :}
Girl that bitch has more drama than a bus full of drag queens on the way to a wig sale for real...
But seriously - you’re going to go cry to the admin, really? Now would this also be the same admins that suspended you for two weeks took away your ability to have your own society and told you that you couldn’t have any free profiles because of all the DRAMA you have been involved with ? Hmm seems to me maybe you need to sit down and shut the fuck up. And if your looking for a name to change yours to legally may I suggest Hypocritical Twat ??? The shoe certainly fits. Oh and being your thing is also pointing out who people are under different profiles why the fuck is that even any of your concern??? So you can go act like a 2nd grader and down rate , give ones and blocks??? Ohhh I’m so scared of that Bahaha bitch you’re a joke and slowly turning into the laughing stock of VR right along with your merry little band of misfits want to be badasses. It’s funny that I can take a several year hiatus from here and come back to the same group of hypocritical drama whores crying the same thing after being caught cheating but still want to play the victim. You all play the victim so well you should carry your own chalk.
Where is the popcorn ????
But sae-sae they are like kids who get no candy!
They throw them self to the floor!
Baha...war....i spit my soda out after reading that!!!!!
lol..wigs,,,
Score one for War lol. Now you know me kitty kitty lol
@War....I only break out the popcorn when there is a going back and forth between two or more members arguing in public in the same journal. When it's only one-sided....it's only Tea Level worthy. LOL!
Shes nothing more that a female Tabby. A bipolar menace !
in answer to the Reaper I never had Purg closed. I was removed but because I trusted the wrong person - in fact I don't even remember giving the particular person a position to begin with. Yes, I was removed, I am not whining about it, and yes, someone else was given that coven. I was still not in trouble, nor have I had any admin osition yanked from me or been suspended for drama or anything else. Check yourself and get your facts straight.
As far as anyone using my real name, I don't care. It's my name. Everyone on the site knows it by now. Just like everyone knows yours but in your case everyone knows it because of all the shit you've been involved in. At least if you are going to throw stones, again, get your facts straight, cause the more you open your mouth about shit, the less you make sense and the more idiotic you make yourself look. Just because someone says your username instead of your real name isn't going to stop you being involved in shit. Case in point you thinking you can actually win an argument in the manner you are trying to go. Be glad we can't all vote your ass off the island, because I am sure the majority vote would be that everyone votes your ass gone. Like I said though, you leave me alone and keep my name out of your mouth and bullshit, I will do the same, but keep pushing and it'll turn into something you don't want it to turn into. You are the ones keeping it going. No one said a damn word about you or MoonSong's coven, I said I didn't give a shit about your part in it, you mustve had a dyslexic moment and missed that one. I do not give two shits about anyone's coven or business other than my own. The only bitch I had at all was that my Coven was brought into the shit.
Maybe you will start thinking before you open that mouth, but I highly doubt it. By all means, continue to make yourself look like a mental head case and village idiot. It's not any skin off my nose. You might wanna click your heels three times and chant "If I only had a brain..."
And please, by all means, keep screen-shotting everything and posting it in your journal because you are giving people the ammo they need and showing people how many brain cells you are missing...Clearly you are more than a few light bulbs short.
Oh and in case anyone is wondering...My profiles are Saetan, DragonMother, DragonLady and MyAngmong should there be any question of who is who. And no, I don't have any more than that.
I don't feel the need to have 20 profiles to keep up with or go use them to rate 1's, give negative honor and blocks to. Profiles aren't for that purpose and shouldn't be allowed to be used as weapons against members of the site. Its juvenile high school bullshit and I left that behind long time ago.
Sae, abusive children!...like i have said all along!!!!
Ok since I wasn't here for all the shit that went down the past couple of days, I borrowed a laptop while at work and am going to say a few things. I want everyone to know exactly what I am thinking and how I feel. No accusations, no insults, just my feelings.
Moonsong - I know for a fact you were warned about Julie. I know for a fact that Cat personally warned you what she was like. EVERYONE in this site knows. She cannot be trusted. You still gave and let her keep ACM. Then when she stabbed you in the back, you had to reap the consequences. Cat was publicly accused with a journal entry. I understand WHY she got upset and why she asked for 35,000 favor after being accused of stealing a member. You know her temper.
Secondly, everyone knows my past history with Cat. It was put to rest. But thanks to recent drama, its been blown way out of proportion. I didn't say in group chat that Cat had called me to tell me she temporarily put the member in Hell until she spoke to me and got my advice on what to do. I do not text fast worth a shit. But yes, she DID call me.
What happened to Swansa was WRONG, I do admit that. I agreed with the other ACMs that she was put in the middle of an argument caused by Julie between you and Cat. She was a chess piece argued over and she was innocent in all of this. Now, what Cat did was wrong on her part, yes, but it was NOT all her fault. The whole deal could have been handled all the way around. Swansa was sent back to you, even though I felt that Cat was shit on because of what she was accused of.
I asked her to go to Hell's forums and add in HER side of the story and to ask the other ACMS to vote. While I wanted her side of the story to be known so everyone would know exactly what was going on - a few people made journals attacking her without getting the entire story first. That was wrong on their parts as well.
I ended up losing not one but 2 ACMs who - all of my ACMs are CLOSE friends of mine. It wasn't fair to any of us who were put in the middle. Yes, my ACMs wont bullshit me, but give it to me straight with their opinions. In group chat I said clearly that the purpose was to vote on what to do about the situation and to put to rights what was done. Not to become an attack on Cat.
What was said was uncalled for. I understand that the person who said that was upset and pissed because of the situation. There was no need for name calling. There was a better way to say what needed to be said without resorting to insults. With that said, I can also said the rest of what was said was the truth. We all agreed on that. That ACM removed Cat from her position abnd blinded her. And while it was not of my doing, I can understand WHY it was done. Yes, I let Cat get away with more than I would anything because of a few things. Y'all do not understand that I felt like I was put between a rock and a hard place at all do you? I was close friends with BOTH sides in the Coven.
So, because I was offline, and too close to all parties involved, I asked Aborash to handle it after talking to all parties. He did exactly as I asked and made a hard decision with a cool head. He told me what he decided to do. He said he sent her a message because she wouldn't talk to him and his decision was she brought drama to the Coven so for now, she was to remain as a prisoner and blinded - he did not mean it would be permanent. I also said I am not sure I agreed with letting her be a prisoner and blinded. You can ask him yourself if anyone has any doubts. He reminded me I asked him to handle it, and I did. So, with that being said I had no choice but to accept the decision he made, because I asked him to do so. It was a hard choice to make when you are friends and close with a person to have to make that decision for the good of the coven.
I accept that blame. I accept the blame that I should have stuck by my original order of telling Aborash just to send her back to MoonSong's coven and wash our hands of it instead of asking for a vote which caused my ACMs to fight amongst themselves. I also accepted the fact that I was not going to be able to make everyone happy when this shit was blown way out of proportion to begin with.
Yes, Cat attacked back those who attacked her first not just in chat but journal entries. I can hardly fault her for that. Bringing personal lives into it was not cool, either. But neither was all the name calling. It was not like that person at all. Normally Nicole has a cool head and an even temper. So for her to lose her control was kinda scary.
Cat did everything I asked her to do. More than what I asked. I can say no more than that.
I trust and love my ACMs. They are my family. They don't pull punches, and they don't blow smoke up people's asses.
I am not accusing anyone, I am not mad at anyone. I am getting my thoughts together and letting everyone know I feel torn, because I was stuck in the middle and didn't want them unhappy, fighting, or to end up losing friends because of stupid online shit.
I am not defending anyone. I promised to stay out of it and I will do just that. As adults, I expected everyone to handle it amongst themselves. I wish it could have been handled better, but it is what it is.
All in all, ultimately what was gained was lost, even though it was set to rights.
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Immy needs to shut the fuck up and actually be an acm she cost two of your active acms for her melodramatic shit that she claims she hates. As far as you shoving Henry into the line the line of fire that wasnt right either cause now he will be treated like you will be because allowed it all
YOU ALSO FRIENDS BECAUSE OF A BITCH THAT PERSONALITY OF DOG SHIT
*YOU LOST FRIENDS BECAUSE OF IMMY
My melodramatic shit? I am not the only one who feels like you've used Hell as your own personal Coven. I am not the only onw who feels this way about all of this. So, no, I don't need to shut the fuck up. I've been with Hell from the beginning, and never once as a prisoner, unlike you. So, when I take action, I do it for the good of the Coven. You haven't changed, Cat. You're the same spiteful little cunt you have always been. I am done sitting on the sidelines, saying nothing while you tarnish everything Hell stood for. Grow the fuck up.
Sure immy that’s why I have a text from Saetan saying I was your replacement cause you do nothing. You such an amazing acm what a joke no wonder what’s his face left you
Wow. Just wow. Never once have I brought up your personal life. Never once have I made digs at your real life situation. That's low Cat, but I suppose I'm not surprised. You have always been a fucking low life. If Mary wants to talk to me about my doing nothing, she can come to me and discus that with me like an adult. Sorry we can't all live on VR every minute of every day. Some of us actually work and have real life responsibilities that get in the way of being on the computer all the time.
This is exactly the point - here we are again with the name calling and spite. And yes I will back Immy on several points. We have been there from day 1 we were never ever prisoners and we have been the original acms since day 1. This is not an attack this is pointing things out.
1. No one ever should have been traded out - for any reason what so ever and we also had it so there would be a reason behind people being sent to hell not for petty drama and that is what this is.
2. Toxickitten was never supposed to be kept he was to be sent back and as of late I see that He hasn’t been. He didn’t have any beef with any of this until Cat sent him to her coven - which again never should have been done to begin with.
3. He’ll never should have been involved with this bullshit with swansa it had nothing to do with Hell at all.
Now with all that being said enough is enough - everyone needs to put their big girl panties on and take responsibility for their own actions. People are going to have their own opinions so be it. It is Mary’s coven at the end of the day and she felt torn so yes she had Henry make the choice on how to handle it and had Immy not already demoted Cat it would have been done by Henry anyways. But when itvresorts right back to name calling it is pointless - mind you even blinded at sire you can still leave the coven that your choice.
I did leave the hell hole because the prisoner thing was a joke and as far toxicdreams maybe she should start clueing her acms on on shit since she doesn’t which creates clueless admins she told I didn’t have to send him back because I paid for him but I bet she didn’t mention that ever what a surprise
Also did one other thing I decided they would get treated the same way inside the covens they are inside that aren’t Hell fair is fair for stupidity specially when you don’t tell people everything no wonder you called Hell a joke immy
This shit needs to stop. Now!
1st and foremost, Coven business is just that. Coven business and should NOT be brought into public forums. Our problems are our problems and should be handled with disgresion. Since that is not being done.... Here I go.
Cat. I told you the decision was left to me. After speaking with the C.M. and the other A.C.M.s I made a decision, as hard as it was. Had you not already been demoted and blinded, I WOULD have done it myself. I have made NO bones about the fact that I look upon you as a little Sister. I STILL do. There have been issues that bothered me that, until recently, I kept to myself. You are aware of them as we have texted one another off site. That being said.... You were wrong in bringing shit to Hell's doorstep. Shit that could have, and should have, been handled in a much more adult way. Especially when Julie was involved. You used a member as a pawn in your petty B.S. with Moonsong. That was WRONG!!!!
You brought a member to Hell who had done nothing wrong. You want to play childish games? Why didn't you keep said member in your Coven? Didn't you have the nerve to handle the drama yourself? Instead you brought it to us. It should have NEVER gotten to this point. But, now that it has...
Mary was put between a rock and a hard place. That's bullshit! She didn't want to lose you and Dave as friends. I told her I wouild be the Asshole and make whatever decision I thought was best for Hell. I have been in Hell for almost 11 years. It is My Home. All of this could have been avoided.
Toxic had a point when he talked about being made a prisoner and traded out of Hell. I kept my mouth shut about it. I shouldn't have. He should NEVER been made a prisoner, regardless of his past, or whether anyone likes him. He came as a volunteer. Cat, You made him a prisoner and with Mary's consent traded him to your Coven in the understanding that he was to be returned. You stated, in Coven forums that he would NOT be returned. He had a point in his rantings about things in Hell. If Mary consented to letting you keep him, it was NEVER brought to anyone else's attention, and for that, if it's true, then Mary.... You were in the wrong... Hell DOES NOT trade prisoners. If a voluntary member wishes to leave then they may. THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL TENET! This drama between Cat and Moonsong would NEVER have been tolerated being brought to our doorstep. There have been many things said in private and in open forums. Some could have been stated more politically correct but oftentimes things said in the heat of the moment aren't well thought out. The three remaining C.M.s, since another decided to bail out before shit got heavy, all agreed on a course of action. If he had stayed and been a part of the process, maybe he could have swayed my decision. Each of you, I consider family. This hasn't been easy. Life often isn't. I didn't like the decision I came to but stand by it. I also stand by each of the remaining A.C.M.s and what has been said, though not necessaraly how it was said. If you all want to get your dander up and be pissed at someone.... I'LL BE YOUR HUCKLEBERRY. If, Mary, you don't agree and stand by my decision, that's your choice. Though, from the beginning, you told me you would. You didn't want to lose friends by making the decision. I don't have that problem with my conscious. If you decide to rescind the decision you left in my hands, that is your decision. If I need to bow out as your A.C.M. I will do so. I will NOT bow out being your Brother. We have to much history online and in real life. To many ties. I will ask you two things to answer to yourself. 1) where is the Saetan of old who would NOT have tolerated any of this? 2) What do you think Cara would have said about the things that have been happening recently? You have 2 of the three original staff members still with you. I carry the third's rank and name as Famine.
This is a damned website for shit's sake. Either the friendships we build here are real or they're not. As far as I am concerned, The people I call Family are family. That goes for Hell's Admin. That goes for other's I have met here in my 13 years on this site. It also goes for Cat and Dave, even if they are hurt or pissed at me. Dave, Before you respond, do me a favor and look in your Coven rules and tell me what you would have done had this not been Cat involved. Purely from a logical point of view.
I am done ranting. Things stand as they are and I have my C.M.s support or I am no longer a part of Hell and what it is SUPPOSED to be about. I want the woman who would take no shit from anyone back. She is ALWAYS going to be my friend and Sister Vampire Rave or not. I am SOOOO over this shit that should never have happened, let alone gotten this far out of hand. I am a Sire. I can leave or stay. My other profile I can copy and paste everything and make a member page to save it to then delete it. The only reasons I came back here were for friends and for Cara's memories. I'll still have most of them whether I'm active here or not.
If you don't like what I've said, you can kiss my ass. I am DONE!!!
Thanks ya'll for having my back. You're right, i NEVER had an issue with anyone until cat came into power. I had warend everyone, there are things i havn't spoken about or even brought up, but i think it's time i do.
fyi, toxickitten is a sire, they are in art. an acm at that. it was toxic dreams who was attacked.
I honestly had great respect for saetan, and the acms of hell. saetan and me USED to be really close until this cat thing, wish, is timed too weirdly, again ill post about that soon. when i do ill tell ABHORASH, and he can tell the rest of hell to check my journal. it will be log, but i have proof of things, and i hope yall can see it. I have old entrys from years agon proving im right now, and even other memer comments, but ill add that in my entry.
sae, i hope you can forgive me for my actions, it was all based on one person that WAS a acm. i was never toxic until they attacked me.
i just hope now yall can see i was right all along, and im sorry for that, i wish i wasn't.
And that's where you are full of shit. Unless you are gonna come up with photoshopped and altered texts now. Nicole's name has never been brought up. That would have been Marci. And I believe you were talking about HellOnHeelz as well. They were removed due to inactivity. Never was Nicole's name brought up except to say we could never be sure if she would stay or decide to wander VR as she has been known to do when she gets bored. She's said this herself as well, not a big secret.
Still at it when you were told to drop it I see. You can't help yourself, can you? And then you are so desperate that not only do you have to put people's personal business out there as a weapon - while you use all those numerous profiles as a weapon as well for negative honoring, rating 1's and blocking, which sorry, I refuse to play that game with you - but have the nerve to sit there and act a victim and get other people involved who weren't even a part of the whole deal. Hypocrite much?
Another point yes, you paid favor to loan him to your coven, the agreement was he was to be sent back after a time. No one agreed on you keeping him not once. I found out later you guys posted you were keeping him. What am I gonna say after you already have him? Not like I can actually do anything about it after hes in your coven now, can I? SO what would be the point of me bitching about it? But to sit there and bald-faced LIE about you bought him? That's fucking rich. No, coming from you it is actually not surprising at all. Still the same old person you've always been. Truth is, we knew if we gave you enough rope, you'd end up hanging yourself. You got too damn cocky and thought because we were friends that none of us would actually do anything if you fucked up, but you were wrong. And as far as you saying Nicole was worthless as an ACM she sure was quick to jerk ACM and blind you when she thought you fucked up, eh? Try again.
Still waiting on my damn new laptop to get here. I had one sent here but it was the wrong one, not the one I ordered. I ordered an Asus with a 1TB HD and they sent me this crappy HP with only 500g HD and only 1 USB port...I had to call best buy and take it to the store here and return it and have them send me the correct one from another store out of state.
How the hell do they get that order screwed up when it says on the order Asus and they send me a damn HP? Somepne mustve either been drunk or high that day. Can't read.
So out of curiosity, my daughter got me to playing Pokémon Go!
I wasn’t interested when it came out but I’ve been bored since laptop died. Just started playing yesterday and already caught 26 Pokémon. It’s funny to me cause kids were mad saying there’s never any Pokémon in our area. All but 5 have been caught by me sitting in my room. And every single one is different. Jordan’s pissed, lol.
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Lol
ohhhh Nooooo!!!!!!! lmao
How about NeoPets? I was talking to someone the other day about Cara telling me I said something about a giant invisible paint brush, one night in my sleep.
You go catch your Pokemon. Just be careful and don't walk into traffic while chasing them.
I've been playing since it was released. I don't play enough- but creeping up on level 36.
So...update on what's been going on.
Got the new hard drive, put it in the laptop, plugged everything back in closed it up and plugged in the power cord and bzzt! it died. So waiting on my new laptop to arrive.
Don't know how long that will be, but hell is in good hands with the ACMs. If I didn't trust them, then they wouldn't be ACMs. Hopefully I will be back before the end of the week.
So...still haven’t got laptop fixed yet, I think the damn hard drive is about to go. I’m frustrated. Everything that can go wrong this week has gone wrong. Waiting on the other shoe to drop.
I slept for over 24 hours. My body pretty much shut down on me. I remember a few people calling and remember answering but not too sure if I made any sense whatsoever when I spoke. Exhaustion from lack of sleep and panic and anxiety attacks, asthma attacks had kicked in.
I am sorry to hear about Greg. I didn’t know him that well but I did know him and he was a good guy. For those who were closer, I send my deepest and most heartfelt sympathies.
I have one of my ACMs making a memorial page. I think we should title it “The Fallen” to those we have lost.
I won’t be on much today, in fact I am on VR today through the phone. Windows decided to update sometime while I was asleep and apparently, they didn’t fix all the bugs in the update because my computer decided to get stuck on the Asus logo startup on reboot. Now I have to spent hours resetting the damn thing. If anyone should need me, call me. Or ding me through Facebook messenger.
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Aww so cute. Sending positive energy your way that you will find that fur baby your heart needs and wants so badly.
I am sure some folks have suggested looking into a rescue center. Some people have to leave their Siamese cats behind for many reasons as sad as that is. You might be able to find one at a shelter too. Call around. Regardless if they don't have papers, they will still love you.
Might I add that not all adoption fees are out of sight. Some can be worked out. I am not sure about your particular area. You should really check around you might be surprised.
My Aphrodite was a Blue Point Siamese. I don't believe she was pure, but you could see her Siamese coloration, and she had the most beautiful seafoam green eyes. I found her at a no-kill shelter near where I live. I hope you find a new boy where it won't cost you that kind of money. But, I feel you. I've been wanting so badly to get a new boy as well, because I miss my Harley. But with my living situation as it currently is, that's not a possibility.
So cute.... I am sorry for the loss hun
He was a charmer
thanks yall. I have been searching through the animal shelter as well. I
Im sorry for your loss Unni ... hang in there.
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