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I'm just a lowly 40s level guy but this comment in particular stood out:



"Between people changing names, changing accounts, having multiple accounts, etc...it becomes very difficult to believe or trust anyone on here anymore."



Emphasis mine. My recent brush with insanity (I won't even deign to call it 'drama') was marred in particular by multiple accounts being created by the one antagonist. That person has now 'left' and given his profile to someone else. I found/find it striking that more than one person has said "I don't believe it. I think it's a trap." That's just sad.

I thank you for your apology. I never thought ill of you and I hope that we may remain friends. Please, in the future if you have any problems with a member in my coven, PLEASE come and talk to me first.

I am always a loyal member to any coven that I join. It's just that these days coven masters care about themselves these days. They are getting desperate to find good members.



When I first came to VR I didn't know much about anything really. Then this cool CM, took me in and well, lol, you know the rest of that story. :)



After having some disloyalty I realized that mabey one day I shoulc open a coven ... my reasons, sound a little like yours...



What I can't stand about VR is all the drama. Here I was being loyal, proud and a post monster and drama got me killed, lol.



The thing is that no matter what I just want to prove people wrong and post, post, post, post... etc

I want to help out with the coven's that I am in and make life easyer.



Even if I was sent to purgatory for some reason, I would only post untill I hit sire, lol. I would be a very porud member.



My quote for VR that I follow, "It is better to reign in hell , than to serve in heaven."





On another note, sometimes there are ACM's who annoy me because they don't do anything. I think a CM should choose who an ACM is based on hard work and experience. It just annoys me to see me with so many posts and an ACM with like, 4, lol. ... and then members that the ACM inducts who don't post at all. xD funny.......

sorry for any spelling error's. *should

Although I have only been on the site a little over a year now i have noticed this too, There are to many chiefs and not enough Indians around here. I can recall even a year ago there was just a few covens and houses and they all had there own theme and people took pride in thier coven, but now it is nothing more than a highschool popularity contest..I don't think the problem can be fixed...i think that f someone profile is not active in over a year then it should be deleted regardless if they have paid for the account or not, perhaps this will help clean up the site. Also I think jsut because a person reaches sire doesn't automiatcally mean they can open a coven..I think there should be a one year period after making sire to open a coven this way the person has time to really grow and learn about the site and the people who sign up. Well there is my two cents on the subject.

When the Society system was first introduced... I was all for anyone and everyone learning new things and meeting new people as we should do on VR



Now all of these days it seems like everyone is out to one up another coven......and compete like some sort of Trashy daily soap....Which I don't like (like you sweetie)



I was first inducted Into Umbrae Octo when Jason was house master.......then I went into Coven of Obscure Quietus..Then into Daire's house then into One of the worst covens I was in for 2 weeks then kicked out of for something that I believed in........went into Nocturnal for a while Then into Stone Guardians then when they disbanded for a while I went into my Current and forever home Immortal Sin



Now out of the houses and covens The ones that I have been in are all different in their own ways and being in a alliance with Umbrae which was my first home.........it has made me realize that certain covens and houses are not out to compete and are out just to have a good time and learn about different things



Now who is to blame??? I have my opinion as well as everyone else.......I fully believe it all depends on the Master of the House or Coven....and the members who choose to participate or not...



I don't know if it can be fixed

Still here...

As just a baby "Raver" I have noticed the house/coven members who haven't logged in in ages issue myself. If I understand correctly though, those members, regardless of their activity level, still provide points for their society, correct? So I would imagine masters/mistresses are loathe to eject them since, even as corpses, they're valuable.



Perhaps Cancer could set up a timer so that any member on the site who was inactive for more than X amount of time (say 3 months) was ejected from their society. That way, everyone would have to contend equally with losing members through inactivity. This would remove the incentive to keep these people AND it would make clear which societies had active engaged members and help members within a house know with whom they should make an effort to interact.



What is more, Cancer could then also set up another timer that made a profile that had been essentially abandoned for more than Y time (say 6 months) visible but not one you could rate or induct or anything else.



I don't know - just some of my uneducated thoughts on the matter.

Thanks for all comments and please keep them coming. I guess the meat of the question is this: we have a LOT of inactive members in the societies. Sure, some haven't been on the site. But MANY more are active VR members, but not active at ALL in their coven. Why is this? Is there anything the masters can do to increase your participation? Or are you just not interested in the coven. Do you resent your induction?

I think sometimes people just get a case of the real lifes (RLs). I think also sometimes people don't care about posting in the covens, they just joined because vamps were "cool". Being here over a year myself, I've been in I believe 3 different houses/covens? Maybe 4? I chose to stay with my friends for the most part when they moved or opened their own coven.



I think sometimes things can get "click-ey" like high school, but that's only because those are the people that have been around and talked to each other the longest. There are some issues between some covens and some people just "harvest" members so to speak.



I think members that haven't logged in for a while should be discarded, but that is the CM's responsibility. The VR rules state that inactive accounts will be deleted, but after a certain period of time. I would think that if the member is inactive, and not earning favors, why not cast them out, unless the CM knows a legit reason they are not here.



ok...I think I'm done. :)

bravo!! and ditto!!!





are you pregnant? :)

That's my lil' succubus ;)

EXXXCELLENT...

i always believe the ratings thing is up to the individual. i personally don't care what someone rates my profile because i'm not here for that. but if someone's profile is rated honestly by someone who cares enough to look at it (since most people don't anyways), then the person who is being rated shouldn't worry about it.



perhaps the effect someone garnered from your rating is that you obviously have some intelligence. sometimes people can't handle that sort of thing, but that's there problem.



nice to see there is still people of substance around.

LMAO! I would never argue with a higher level because there just isn't any point to do so. I always re-rate things and when someone gives me less then a 10 I do ask nicly.



Its not that I really care if I got a ten, but how I can make my profile better would probably help me. The other day a guy rated me a one. I asked why and he said rude things, then blocked me.



So I wrote a journal entry about his journal, saying I was porud to be blocked because he blocks ACM's and I am not one, or that he doesn't know how to write a paragraph.



He wrote that I was stupid, lol.



Then later on I found out that he was only after members on the coven that I'm in. Some people... can be so stupid, that its funny. It just really is funny.

I'm behind 100% percent step of the way Ky :-)

lol argued over a 9?



how immature

Nothing but trouble I tell ya :P

WOO!!! Yay and men do find a succubus with power sexy

wooo yeah! congrats on making sire!

Well done congratulations