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this is something that i wrote as a members article i hope that it is accepted and i hope that you all take your time to read it and let me know what you think.


Thought time there has been thousands of reports of vampirism. Can every one of those people really have suffered from a mental disorder?
Scientifically vampirism is described as a mental disorder. Which details the delusions where the person suffering this infliction believes that they have turned into a creature of the night. I personally find this hard to believe. My reasons being that there are people in this world that need blood to survive, that the sun can actually hurt them, the list goes on. Now I can understand that some of those people may have misconstrued these symptoms as vampirism. But thousands? How can this be?
I personally know people that are vampires. Many here on vr and some in the city I live in. it is very hard to believe that what they suffer from is merely a mental disorder when they are going through massive pain when they haven’t feed.

I suppose that the medical explanation for vampirism is connected to the discrediting of vampirism in whole. But to me that’s all it is a feeble attempt to rally people against another group of people.

I leave this information at your feet. And leave you asking this one question. Is vampirism the dark gift or merely a medical disorder?
-gothicjoker

you are either vamp or not, and the idea of an infection or medical comdition is ubsurd...many will be offended by this...And yes it is just more propoganda...333

i do hope this hasnt offended anyone

It could be either or. I dont think that 100% of the Vampire population has a mental disorder, but i do think people jump on the bandwagon (after a manner of speaking) to sound "edgy" or "cool." I have seen people i know go through the same withdraw that you describe Joker and i know they are not faking.

its simply an hypostisis, if one is offended by a simply opinion then they better not speak, but if one wish to state an opinion then with respect one shall do.

Me? I think it is not an illness or medical thing, but I do think some are in need of medical help, as they are not having a dark gift but more a dark mind

i do agree that there are true vampires but also that some just suffer from mental problems and do need help. Like previously posted either you are or your not.

I think it's more of a way of life...I think it's a gift you are given...but it could be a medical illness as well...

for those that have already commented do you think this would make a good article?

yeah i think it will joker:) well written....*drops 2 cents in the bucket*

maybe be it was a mixture of both, there are a lot of possibalty's

It really all depends on the circumstances and the person themselves. Some are vampiric due to a medical condition, and some are vampiric by nature. The events that have happened throughout a person's life helps shape and mold their thoughts and opinions of things. There really is no certain way of determining why people have vampiric tendencies or what not, so the above is my opinion and guess on the matter. Carpe Noctem

For me it is a way of life that I choice to live.

Vampirism, ah...

It is one of four things.

An actual mental/medical disorder.
A way of life.
One of the rare people who really are vampires.
Or, the person is full of shit.

I think that for many it is a way of life. But it could be possible that it has something to do with a medical condition.

I believe there are real vampires from a dark gift, but there also have to be people who DO have a medical disorder that makes them believe they are vampires when they are not.

I think this would make a really good article.. well written

I would have to say some things are better left to mistery and unknown...kinda like life...maybe we are just not supposed to find out what life really means...DK

Its a gift but not necessarily dark..it depends on how you use it...

thank you all for taking your time to read this

well written and thought out. thank you for the opportunity to read it joker!

Morlock333, don't you think it's a little closed-minded of you to dismiss vampirism as a medical condition? You speak as if you think there's no room for discussion whatsoever, simply because you don't agree with it.

I know people who do need to consume blood on a regular basis otherwise they get very ill. So yes, I think it can be a medical condition.

It can also be a lifestyle choice. Like vegetarianism, there's nothing medical that dictates that person cannot eat meat, they just choose not to. Likewise, some vampires choose to consume human blood.

Others find they can extract energy form blood that they might not otherwise have had. I'm one of these. I can do without blood, but I feel much more energetic for having had it.

It might be both.

At the begining the disorder is being weak, emmiting it self like a disorder, wich in actually might be the begining of a awakening, after the disorder becomes strong enough, it becomes supernatural automaticly.

Ppl are proly opressed by the doctors, that they are sick, but maybe they are just mutating finaly, and the current condition might me the sign that the person is actually changing its chemicals, in to something else.

I think the reason vamps experience pain and weakness when they dont feed is because their body gets accustomed to blood and, just like any other addictions, once u go cold turkey your body reacts because they become used to it.

I would have to say that at least some of the vampiric populaton prolly have what is described here as a mental issue, but as a whole i think its a small percentage....i think the people that claim to be born a true vampire or the ive been infected vampires are more of an issue.

Personally I find it difficult to believe that a person 'needs' to ingest blood to live ....without there being an underlying medical condition.

there are medical conditions where people need blood to live. this is not vampirism. there actually is a conditon described in medical journals. but scientifically vampirism is described as MENTAL disorder. as in a psychosis. similar to schizophrenia.

I personally believe that it is a persons way of life he or she chooses to live.

gothicjoker

Yes...I meant ingest/drink blood.

i knew what you ment i was clarify for other people. vampires. true vampires anyways need to ingest blood because it is the life force. it contains energy. whicjh is what a vampire needs

thier are always posers ....

I think their are three types of people who are "vampires" (one) the people who say they are and really know that they are not, (two) the people who say they are vampires and think they are, and (three) the mental cases, my opinion is that i do think some people get cravings for blood but i do not think they need the blood i think it is all in their head, once a person thinks that they need something i think they would get ill and think that they are sick without blood, then when they get it their mind is probably telling them that they are all right...

ravennight has teh right idea i think. Thats very true from my expience.

I feel you have to really conduct a study to get a definite answer. There are so many "scenesters" out there who end up caught in their own lie; (they could be considered mental I guess) But I don't feel that everyone who claims to be a vampire is deranged.

I think vampirism is a medical thing. But I wouldn't call it a disorder. That implies that it is somethign wrong that needs to be changed or cured, and with vampirism I do not consider that to be tht case. Tigers are not humans, but their tigerness is not a disorder to be cured. It's the same thing.

Mental disorder

There is only one thing to say to the idea of it being a medical condition. Have you been reading too many books or watching too many movies?

Whenever you get the so-called "Scientific Community" involved over Vamperism. Then it's just another case of divide and conquer. In order to understand true Vampirism is to research the earliest history of the word.

And you will find out exactly what it means. Vampirism is more like a birthright. We Vampires are highly advanced individuals. And has taken our place as Gods upon the Earth. When one thinks of a Vampire they think of Hollywood's portrayal of us.

When one finds their true path. And come to the conclusion that they are a Vampire, you have to undergo the full transformation, to be turned. Not just bitten like in the movies. But actually turned and converted. Some folks in here are not ready for the conversion. And only the true Vampires know exactly what I am speaking of.
And what we do is give that back to them, by personifying what they are seeing in the movies. By becoming the essence of that. Just so they won't our true goals and rituals.

Any true Vampire will contest to that!

Beliefs on the subject differ, the one thing in common is it's not come plague or disease that rots and destroys people. Personally I believe it can be a gift, or a curse, but it is not a disease.

Your beloved Nazarene was a Vampire. "Flesh of my Flesh, Blood of my Blood". His own deciples partook of him. The last Supper. But the Xtian church wants to overlook that. And they still follow that tradition to this day! All they did was replace the flesh and blood with Jewish wine and passover bread.

Now, the scientist wants the general public believe that we have some type of mental disorder, so that we cannot open people's minds to the truth. They still have the world in the palm of their hands.

That's why we have to establish coven, and safe houses, for a place for our people to go and fellowship without being outcasted from society. But the truth will come out sooner or later!

kage movies and books? why dont you look into it there are numerous medical explinations as to what vamirism really is.

Well it is indeed a way of life....But there are the occasional few who try to be one resulting sometimes in obsession.....Such people have to get themselves treated....Some pretend for fun like hey...Wassup i'm older than civilization.....I've seen things...things which you've never seen.....I crack up everytime i see one of these characters....Then there are those who drink blood to show off...And often they do so without checking the blood for any signs of diseases......They soon get infected.....

This is my view

i have just found out about shere's disease which alot of people miscontrue as vamirism. the sympotoms are severe photosensitivity, where the sun can give you first to third degree burns as well as pale skin and they seem to age slower visually.

Soem are true vamps and others are pepole who are a few shy of a twelve pack. For those that are truly vamp its supposed to be a gift but it depends on if it was voulantary and how you use it

I think there are vamp but like saidabove some people just claim it too be part of something they have no true i dea about.but i am sure the some doctor and other will find away to xplane it off as a mental thing.becuse for some it is easy to think that the thing in the night dont exsist

Medical issues can and do lead to forms of psychosis creating an additional problem for that individual.

I think its both, there is a medical condition called (?spell - Pyorforia. its a lack of iron and heamoglobin, people have been known to kill people for there organs dry them out turn them into powder and add water as a protien shake....

that was on csi

I don't think vampirism is supernatural. It's just that it's not fully understood yet.

not all of them, some, not all.

I feel that it is a gift.

thank you all for sharing your opinions

There are no real vampires, I know its a way of life. But I would never say it meaning it truthfully . I joke around about it, I am almost thirty and people tell me I don't even look 18. I share the same problem as my grandpa. I am very sensitive to the sun. I have to wear sunglasses at work because my eyes get so sensitive to light. They are all inherited medical cases. I completely refuse to believe that people are addicted to blood.

Nightwing666

I would beg to differ re Jesus and vampirism...there is a vast difference between reality and symbolism.

Levin, I don't think it's an addiction to blood as such - more a chemical or protein found in blood. There will be other substances that it's present in too, but some people like the taste of blood so they prefer to get it that way. Same with energy. It can be drawn without ingesting blood, but again, some people enjoy it.

well done article (might wanna brush up some of the spelling and verb tense before submitting it as a member article... they might not accept it for that reason. but its a great article)

i just wanted to throw in some 2 cents... the whole blood infection thing... though i dont really believe it, i tend to think anything is possible.

i also think that mental conditions should be examined. sometimes people get thrown into institutions and told they are schizophrenic or some other mental disorder... how do we know they are really mentally ill and not telling the truth. what if those people who are schizo really have it right... and we are the ones who are wrong. never know. kinda like we will never know who is really serious about being a vamp or not.

I think that the origin of the vampire was a medical condition. Remember that we weren't always so technologically advanced. Many people fell back on the mystical to explain things that they couldn't otherwise.

very good point theta. i believe that most mythical stories have a lot of truths hidden in them. but it would be hard to delineate between whats real or not.

I dont think it is a medical condition that is just the world lame way of being close minded again

Despite gothicjocker's claim, there is no one who actually "needs blood (i.e., blood drinking) to survive", which is why anyone who believes they do is without a doubt suffering from a mental disorder or delusion. I challenge anyone to provide any actual scientific documentation of such a claim. For my part, however, I can indeed provide actual scientific documentation for the true "vampiric" gift of history, as it was truly expressed and enjoyed for millennia... and is still considered even today just as "physiologically impossible."

As for light sensitivity, this was never a trait of historic (i.e., actual) "vampirism" but was purely the product of fiction. However, even were we to ignore such facts (something far too common here), to equate porphyria to being a vampire makes as much sense as equating someone suffering from jaundice as being akin to the animated characters on "The Simpsons" (both have yellow skin tones, right?).

The degree to which so many here are willing to close their eyes to truth and Logic so as to emulate and adorate pure fiction is just... well... unbelievable.

As for the actual historic "vampiric" Dark Gift... this awakening was very real and historically documented since the age of Sumer. But it had absolutely nothing to do with blood drinking or immortality, though far longer lifespans were experienced by those so "awakened."

some people are mentally unstable and claim to be Vampires...but their are also those who really are,after getting to know a person you can find out for sure who is who...as far as medical conditions go I guess all real vampires could be considered to have one if being without what they need to survive is taken away!

Vampirism Is a dark gift that the Gods/Goddesses besowed upon us....... I understand where you are comeing from but if that is your oppinion.... then maybe YOU need help............. Just some more government propeganda.............. If you want the best oppinon that you'll ever find contact HellzGuardian69........just be nice to him..... and watch what you say to him...........

this is not my poinion i belive it is a dark gift. if you read it carefully i say that the medical explination is an attempt at discrediting the vampire

I did read it Im jus a little hung over...... And I didnt mean if it is YOUR oppinion as in directed 2 u but directed to any who think it is a medical condition...... my head hurts..................

i think it is a very instreasting read, where did you agin find your information

most of it is my own but if you look into shere's diease you will find the information about medical explinations

i think vampirism is instinctual, and that is just strong in some, and neglegable in the greater populas...

True vampires can differentiate reality from fantasy, and that's how you know who is mentally unstable and who is real. People who don't have a grip on reality generally aren't vampires.

I also don’t think that it is or should ever be considered a mental disorder. 1.some people need blood to live off 2. People need some kind of energy to live off 3. People who consider this to be an illness is because THEY”VE ONLY SEEN THE NEGITIVITY THAT ARE GIVEN OFF FROM VEDIOS,FILMS, BOOKS, ECT…. ABOUT SUCH CREATURES THAT, THAT IS WHAT THE HAVE COME TO BELIEVE IN AND HAVE AND WILL BE LIVE IN FOR ALL THEIR LIFE…….im cooled down now:P…..which means that in the future it will be so much a harder for the up coming pure blood and half blood to live through. It just gets me pissed off some times to know this shit and wanting to do something about it but you cant change anyone through what they have been brought up from…….anyways I don’t think it’s a gift either because I think its just what some people need to live off from…..And I think the Gajas (posers) should be classified in some other mental disorder like um…..bipolar…or something like that because vampirism is people in need for blood, not if they think they are one or personally I think……they shouldn’t be living in the world anymore. ;P
But yeah anyways that’s what I think. My opinion don’t make it anything else.

I consider it a dark gift I was born with, but somedays it can be a handful when the need to feed overwhelms.

even tho im not vamprish, but would consider being vampire a gift all in itself :)

I have to say i think it is a medical disorder in many ways. It is same with religions to. when someone really belive then i mean really belive in something so is it often it lead to a lifestyle on it and you think you have to get that or that to feel good. Everything is based on the mind as i see it.

Its a gift...

it a gift and that what im sticking to and no one going to change my mind*crosses arms*

you are either born with a vampiric spirit or not

I think that while some may have a medical affliction of the psyche there are some that do have to feed on blood to survive. Now the question is, are the ones that need blood to survive, gifted, or do they have a PHYSIOLOGICAL disorder.
Not to mention what qualifies as a vampire? Immortality, blood drinking, photosensitivity, supposedly unnatural strength and speed, psychic gifts, being dead and rising from the grave. Those are the usual qualifications, so with that we have the standards, but do the people involved have to have all of these things or just some? If it is just some then someone with photosesitivity, and psychic gifts that has a blood iron disorder so they drink blood to provide themselves with the extra iron would be by definition a vampire.
If someone has to have ALL of these qualities to be a vampire then logically there are a lot of empty graves out there and those caretakers must be really mad.

I also I don't think that vampires could number anywhere near the thousands because the food supply would run out rather quickly. There is no short supply of humans around by last count.
In conclusion, IF vampires exist they are few and far in between.
The rest have either a physiological disorder, or a mental disorder.

Ofcourse, there is the case of certain groups of people who claim to be vampires but they are just too far from it. This could be named "mental disorder".
For any other, that is an actual vampire, their case would be named "pathological disorder".

There are some interesting theories about the nature of a vampire. It is not that hard to explain in a scientific way what makes someone to have to feed of blood or evolve new senses or "abilities".

Anyway, to conclude, I believe that although there could be actual vampires, there is definetely a number of people who suffer from some kind of mental disorder (this could be stupidity as well. Such a case, as many before me said, is when one would claim to be a vampire just for the sound of it).

it's more or less like idabeties.

and vampires are just gettingt he insilin from other humans blood.

It is a dark gift, a dark gift.

I think it's all the above.. each different with each different person.
I see no wrong way. JMTs&Os

some claim it to be both

there is a medicial condition called porphyria that makes people think they have to have blood. True vampyres, I'd have to meet one to believe.

vampirism is real. there is no doubt about that, for those of us who know and understand it. As for those who cant, they see it as a disorder.

i believe it to be a gift not a medical condition even though i think their has been some cases where people had a disease like it .I think it would make a wonderful article goth.

I personally have never met someone who needed to drink blood to survive or to stay well, the only people that i know of who drinks blood are people who want to because they think it makes them a true vampire, and if someone gets sick over not drinking blood then they have made themselves use to something and when they do not have it they think they are not well, when really it is all psychosomatic...

I believe it to be both depends on the person and the case.