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This is a forum about creation, our creation. Please share any of your thoughts on how you think that we were created. Any and all comments are welcome. Be brutal, please. Here are some of my thoughts. I have always believed we were created as a slave force to work. Now, not saying we were all treated badly, but for most it was rather harsh. I am not going to get philosophical just yet, not until others contribute to this topic, this question?

Where did you come from, and why?

I have spent countless days and nights, attempting to know thyself. One thing I would love to discuss with, you, someone, anyone. Any other consciously awakened being that has just five minutes to read this, and then the link, hell just fucking skim the basics. Then comment, and reply, I am truly here to find a group, who likes to ask questions, in respect to secrecy and code. I am not here to cause trouble, for I believe and practically everything, or rather nothing. Hope that made my point.

Here is the link.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_creation_myth

Yes, I know, but all the writing in the world is suspect. Just read, if you want, and then you can tell me what you think. I have researched this for awhile, and this sums it up rather quick and efficiently, I think. Thank you and hope to hear from you soon.

My answer:
Humans were brought here. A handful actually.
Humanity wasn't supposed to be as overpopulated as we have become.
That in itself is fascinating because humans have survived many trials of Earthly disasters, Wars, Diseases, etc etc. and yet, we're still here.
Humanity has even survived at least 2 "Raptures", and those happen every so often, and will happen again, but probably not in our lifetime.

Our Godly ancestors have been around since before mankind existed here. Earth was has been visited before it's atmosphere was even constructed.
That is how much more advanced THEY are.

I have been thinking about other things as well.
We have such a high population. Who's to say the Old Gods won't return and make more human sacrifices in their name?

If one pays attention to the construction of the Pyramids (all of them), the doorways, the types of Gods in each culture, each civilization....you will notice many similarities that are unavoidable to notice.
That is because each visit was the same "God".
They may have a different name, but it's the same one.

First off, thank you for sharing, again. I wrote these forums to be read and commented on, thank you. I agree with you, mostly. We all have our own way of figuring things out, that's our free will.

I believe the ones you speak of, are the main reason we are so beautiful as a human race. But, every creation has its assholes. Our 'god' assholes enslaved us, and our 'god' not assholes freed us. Hence, good and evil. The main group of leaders are coming back, I hope and trust, and will even the odds. For, anyone with a little power unsupervised, can do horrid things to others. So be it, I am not a judge, but those who feel they are will be judged by others who think/know they are. Blessed be the ones who care for all races, and entities, I know what it has been like to be confused, hence I do my best to help others stray from their confusion. Whether it be self inflicted, or out-sourced, so to speak...

Compelling arguments (of which I have argued for here) can be made supporting both creationism and evolutionary perspectives... I think this is another case of choose what fits your beliefs best and go with that.

Agreed, I was electrocuted, by a friend, a catalyst. It was bad. Months later when I was incarcerated, I had a lucid dream. Long story short, I lost a part of myself, wherever I was. I was breathed light into, as in light was breathed into me, by this entity, the light was a magnificent, blue. There is a lot more to this story, but the point of it is. I was told all I had to do was believe. So, all I can hope to tell anyone is, the same. Because, when I believe, it comes to pass, regardless. I am not powerful. I am all powerful, as are you, and others. Our beliefs make us who we are, beyond the facts of what we truly are. I know what I am, and what I have become, as well as was. I am here to say, you can trust in me to be helpful. Regardless of your beliefs, I am supportive, it is after all what moves me, helps I to live. Live long, and prosper, Amun-Ra, Also know as, Amen! (If you would like to know more about my NDE experience, let me know via PM)

I have many different theories this being one of them actually. I am one of those people who believe anything is possible and has argued on all different sides of the debate.

I am one of those people as well who likes to "TROLL" So to speak, on these types of topics, in a cute and cuddly/forceful way. Like, by debating and asking questions. I never truly like to argue or fuss and fight, because in theory, I don't know shit. Oh, and when I mean troll, I mean like one of those cute dolls from the 90's. I like to help make people truly stop and think about their life and the lives of others "We can never just believe in one thing, because all things are possible and at our disposal!" ~D.N.N.~

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I do not believe that our creation was an accident. I am not sure how or even why we were created. I simply do not believe that we are an accident nor is the world we live on. The complexity of our bodies and the world we live in shows me some kind of "programming" was involved. I cannot prove this but I do not feel we just climbed out of the ocean and evolved. One of the reasons that I am on VR is to help finally figure out what I believe.

Hi :-) Thanks for your great thread! I really love and appreciate this topic. I study esoteric, as well, and I want to share with you and everybody what I have found. It thinks in me that Pythagorean Hylozoics is a workable hypothesis. Science has defined less than 1% of what reality is. So forgive me of my ignorance, and Be blessed, Lutris8 :-)
http://www.esotericscience.org

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god created adam and eve which were cavemen and gods creation evolved with his helping hand at times

I accept Biblical creation. Through Providence, Preservation, and Adaptation humans have evolved to some extent. I think that God has also used evolution to some extent.

yes all things that get created do go through a form of evolution and certain changes in dna that after time with are born into those creations come as natural responses/instinctual habits for survival/existing/living

I have a mixed opinion on this.

We have too much in common with other primates to make the argument that humans didn't evolve from them. You don't need a degree in genetics and organic chemistry to see the similarities.

That being said, I don't believe that human consciousness evolved through the forces of natural selection. If the development of rational, self-reflexive awareness, as evidenced through the development of culture, language, and other artifacts were a feature of the natural world, we would see more of it on this planet. Apart from the occasional flash of intelligence in some higher mammals this is not what we see. What we do see in the human is a primate that is freakishly intelligent when compared to other animals, and whose physical differences from other primates all basically revolve around our ability to swim. We have a subcutaneous layer of fat to keep us warm in the water, our body hair generally falls in a uniform layer to shed water, we have webbing between our fingers for propulsion through the water, and we can learn to swim, something no other primate on this planet can do. If you throw a chimpanzee into a pool it will drown thrashing.

How our consciousness came about I cannot answer with certainty. There are some interesting theories out there. Everything from gods, to aliens, to some profoundly strong mushrooms that a troop of our ape-like ancestors were able to eat long enough to mutate their brains. We will likely never know, unless whoever is responsible for it shows up with proof in hand.

Yes, let us discuss how you all crawled out of the swamp, stood upright, rendered a few species extinct and then turned your back on your true nature all so you can look good in a suit and a tie, and drive your suvs.
I call that devolution not evolution, a true predatory species evolves to become better than their prey, better physically but humans are just getting weaker and yet they still claim to be the dominant species, the apex predator.
How very droll, An apex predator doesn't get killed left and right by lesser species yet mankind is the most common food on the menu of multiple species. Of course, humanity is not much of a predatory species.

The food chain exists for a reason, to balance the earth. But what are humans for? Nothing you've done has benefited the earth really, your actions are illogical and self-destructive. Don't get me wrong, it is fun to witness and I like chaos but when there is more grey than green, more artifcial than natural, something has got to give.
If most living creatures exist to benefit the earth then the human animal is the tool of destruction, one of the few creatures that kills not for food, not for survival but for petty greed. The problem is that mankind is half-assed about it, like killing but then outlaws it, severely diminishing the population corrective advantage it could give. Mankind is an unchecked species that is overpopulating and this "morality" they love to spout is not a survival tool but actually a slow eating cancer on this world, it has no use in the natural world and because of it, the population is soaring. Soon there will be little to no green on this earth, which will then lead to extinction of many species.

I was just born and parents brother and
Sister all dead. And I lived in the same
County for 55 years and will be for a few
More then I'll go back to wherever I came
From I imagine. I feel I haven't learned
Anything in that time!

This site is not about the creation of humans and/or vampires etc. Read the home page. But there is a forum where we can address some of these issues. I am getting confused by the posts and if you mean humans because they don't know everything yet. They find new species or subgroups all the time and science is changing their minds about many things. In the past they didn't think Neanderthals mixed with others but they did. DNA research has opened many doors.

I don't get into evolution as opposed to creationism because the two can very well go together. No one knows these answers other than we know in certain ways things evolved on Earth as to the spark that started it all there are many ideas from scientific to religious theories but that is all they are. Most that is accepted in the west outside of science theories was stolen from other cultures. Re-written, expurgated and changed depending on which group was dominant and then the views of what everything meant extrapolated upon and the pick and choose what you think is viable is the idea of today.

As far as vampires, I don't believe in any particular connection with any culture we know about. From my researches it seems to be older than Egyptians or Sumerian cultures. Whether they had beliefs in similar beings isn't relevant. I don't think it started there. The only person I think might have come close is Nikolas de Vere and he is now past but only from one frame of reference and he researched for years. We don't have documents that go back far enough to really know a beginning or even how the Earth ended up teeming with life. We only have theories and they are legion.

darko i feel like that sometimes too

it really makes you wonder are we seeing the big picture and what is really important and what exactly are we missing out on

we are all part of creation on one level or another and it seems some dissolve while others evolve

what came first the chicken or the egg is what it comes down to.

born to be tried..
born to be seen..
for what we have done..
on other planets it may seem?
hell is eternal..
so what is forever?
what is eternal?
does that mean we can try again after all?
but what have we learned?
making the same mistakes as we have before..
i believe we are being recycled..
they say everything is infinite..
but i say there's a point in everything..
we might not get to it just yet..
but i will soon reach that point..
and acquire many ideas for each and everyday..
to make my next life or what's after this much more to live with..

perhaps the answer to all is simply "string theory"

Why question your existence? One would think one would be grateful just to live, assuming they have an adequate life of course.

Does it really matter how humanity came to be? No, because it won't make death any easier nor life, in fact truth can be devastating and can only make one miserable.

Nihilism is a healthy outlook on life because instead of questioning, you simply live life.

I must admit that Mordrakus makes a compelling argument.I mean will knowing where you come from really benefit you in the long run?

We are a genetically engineered species that have evolved through out time and will kill ourselves and all that is around us because it is our nature to do so.

There is a decent amount of inquisitiveness that need be applied to fully realize it, but, judging from the way Humanity has evolved sporadically, Humans may indeed be a form of test subject.

If I had to guess, I would say a Mark 2 or 3 model.



I don't favor guessing.

Much like other forms of life, humanity could very well have evolved from lower forms of life.

We could have existed on some cellular level while other forms of life like say, the dinosaurs walked the earth.

In the words of Wednesday Addams, 'My parents had sex.'

Why do people look for something complicated when there's no need to? When animals breed, they have babies. If they don't die in childbirth, they get to live.

Just because one walks on two legs don't make one any different, or special.

Embryo sperm you know the drill

Yes, I believe in the whole Biological shit, obviously, but I also believe that there's a whole lot more to it than that. I believe in God. Period. ;)

in my humble opinion, and i think truly I've been watching too much Ancient Aliens on History Channel, but some of the things they discuss on the show really make sense.

I think someone here mentioned that we were brought here, I believe that as well, to be quite honest, and I will get some slack from it, but I think Jesus was an alien hybrid. How else can you explain some of the things he was able to do, not to mention in the bible he says my fathers kingdom is many houses, which of you think he is referring to the different galaxies out there?

we are not alone, and to be honest, we may have come from Mars, and now we are going to return to where we came from.

I don't think Jesus existed really and when I think about it more if he did what he tried to teach was corrupted and it started with Paul. As for believing in "God" who is that anyway? That is like saying ball and it always annoys me. Say who you mean. Ancient Aliens has been debunked. Zecharia Sitchen has been debunked. I don't listen to anything he ever said. He had no education in ancient languages at all. His major was political science and he mistranslated so much. Read Michael Heisers site. I was studying most of this before the net.

I don't think it matters where we stem from. It could be we were brought here but as everyone prefaces...its a belief so there is no real basis in fact for any of it. Maybe the planet was Terraformed as they talk about in fiction stories. They always say writers must get their ideas from some place. Maybe it is memory of other times. Who knows there are so many ideas but I take exception to unequivocal statements because I know no one has anything to back up what they are saying.

My humble opinion. We are mutant bacteria, created during the evolution of our planet. As time pass, we will evolve, into something else, because we keep changing. If we are all created equal, then, why we all look so different? because we are bacteria. So, the idea of an entity, creating us, as his/her own image, is a little hard to believe. So, mutant bacteria, that is my final answer.