Meaning
An irrelevant argument.
Origin
Some may disagree with the above meaning and argue that it means 'a point open to debate', rather than 'a point not worth debating'. That former meaning was certainly the correct one when the term was first coined, but that's going back a while.
Laurence Humphrey, the president of Magdalen College, Oxford, wrote Nobles or of Nobilitye, a manual of behaviour for the English nobility, in 1563. In that he wrote:
"That they be not forced to sue the lawe, wrapped with so infinite crickes and moot poyntes."
In medieval England, moots, or meets, were assemblies or councils where points of government were debated. The country was split into juridicial areas called hundreds and administered via assemblies known as hundredmotes. The form of government has long since vanished but the term hundred is still in use as the name of the procedural device which gives consent to MPs' resignation. British MPs aren't allowed to resign and, when members wish to leave Parliament they may do so by applying for the notional position of Crown Steward and Bailiff of the Chiltern Hundreds. In such assemblies points which were put up for discussion were said to be mooted.
The change in meaning has come about following the introduction of 'moot courts', which are session where law students train for their profession by arguing hypothetical cases, i.e. 'moot points'. The lack of any substantive outcome from these theoretical cases has led to the 'unimportant/not worth discussing' meaning of 'moot point', which is what many people accept today.
A further step, and one which it is to be hoped doesn't gain public acceptance, is the spelling as 'mute point'. This is a simple mistake, deriving no doubt from the fact that 'moot' is an archaic word with little other usage apart from in 'moot point' and that 'mute' makes some sort of sense when allied to the 'not worth discussing' meaning. This mistake isn't restricted to recent years. The earliest example of it that I can find is from John Hutchinson's Philosophical and Theological Works, 1749.
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How horny is that to be told that you have been dreamed about
Flattering also
was the last time I took a pencil to a piece of paper and sketched
why?
because I hated art, I couldnt stand it and it could not stand me but today I had an experience
an urge to buy a pad and a set of pencils and I sketched my first sketch in 2 decades and you know what
art seems to have found me
fuck knows why but it has.........
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-pouts- I pout, because I should be happy...
and are you happy?
Below is a copy of a thread comment I made today regarding how I practice Vamprism
we are off topic and the thread is turning into do we believe people who claim there vampires rather than
Vampire Parctices
So to get it back on thread I shall discuss my practices and before I do, NO I dont want you to believe it but this is what I do and will still do if you beleive it or not and NO, I shalll not be providing proof as I have nothing to prove I am just stating my Vampiric Practices as I am a Vampire (y)
The most ideal way for me to feed is directly from a donor. If willing I prefer that the donor allows me to obtain blood from them, usually using a catheter which is a needle that goes directly into the vein. I take no more than 20ml at any one time and no more than a pint in a month. This is the cream for me the best source of pranic energy I can get.
However finding a donor long term for this type of feed is hard and at the moment I am faced with having to feed from pranic energy off a donor directly using energy manipulation.
I do this by relaxing the donor and then extending my aura into theirs and blending with them to become as one. I then mentally visualise and feel the energy in each of the donors chakrs draining into mine.
I feed this way at least once a day at the moment but prefer twice if I can
I also have a donor who lives in Denmark who allows me to feed from her using astral projection and I feed from her in the same way as I would if she were next to me save that I project my aura through the astral plane until I connect with hers and I do this through a sigil or meditation.
Just so she knows I love her to peices for letting me feed from here and I am so much a part of her as she is becoming a part of me ;-) you know who you are
It seems lately that I have more sad days on VR than happy days of late
I'm very lucky in a way because there are a handleful of people on here that make my time spent here worth while.
Drama seems to be the big issue and people getting hurt by others because of lack of understanding and compassion makes it a sad place sometimes
I just spoke to a lady and her message brought a tear to my eye and memories of sad times I had shared with my wife once. My heart goes out to her.
I'm lucky that I have some people here to make it all worth while and my thoughts are with them, thanks to Aracon, if it wasnt for the coven I wouldnt feel it worth while to come on at all except for XTCraver, thanks for giving me the chance to pass on some stuff that I know, its an honour to teach you, you always make me smile when we talk and thanks to Lovise whose words make me laugh so much tears roll down my cheeks and not forgetting Gordon, my strange australian friend who is witty and probably doesnt even realise it
You guys make it all worth while
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;)
Oh? I make lads cry with laughter...How ironic. Lol.
our private conversations hun, not your journal entries *winks*
There is a minor few on here whose soul purpose is to mock the vampyre in us..
It beggers belief why these people bother to frequent a Vampire Forum which is clearly going to be a forum full of people who are vampires/vampyres?
I ask myself why?
Probably because there own sad lives are worthless and useless, they have no sense of belonging and wish to drag people down to there depressing level.
You find these self effacing self proclaimed experts on every forum around the Internet...
My advice is, stick up for yourself against the bigots, do not let them drive you out of your forum, your place of fun, keep stating your case even though it shouldn't be this way
The only way to beat them is to join them
An old lady struggles with her dirty bags to cross the underpass leading out of cardboard city, her vomit covered dress and scraggly hair make her a frightening site for the eyes. I'm freezing despite the thick layers of clothing I have on, the cold has managed to seep into my bones. The dungeons are a very harsh space to live in.
I step over 100's of used needles and beer cans to help the old lady to her feet. She was beautiful once, you can tell by looking at her features. Through the dirt is a strangly youthful woman. She hissed her thanks to me and locks her fingers onto my wrist. I find myself being dragged along, the woman having far more strength in her than I first anticipated.
The sreams she tell me, you here for the screams.
I have been doing what I can, counter measures of magick, boiling my cauldron and dosing the homeless with my potions. Its kept the TROLLs away but i'm running out of steam. "You need to get help Mr Beltaine, much more help." "I'm Rosaleen by the way and i'm a witch"
We finally arrived at her flat, she plunged her whole head into a cauldron off water and when she finally looked up I was amazed.
She certainly looked the part, her eyebrows plucked into high arches, her whole face, framed with jet black hair, a pattern of striking black curves which resembled nothing so much as one of her paintings which were hanging around her walls. She was now calling herself the leader of a witch cult and whilst the "cult" never seemed to amount to much more than a few friends gathering in her small flat for occult talk and the occasional friendly ritual, this was too good to believe.
"There were about eight or nine cult members present. They all wore hideous masks so were quite willing to be photographed, although they pointed out that there were certain rites which could not be performed before outsiders or cameras."
Later Rosaleen Norton changed into her witch's outfit. She was nude except for a black shawl over her shoulders. A cat mask covered her face, but did not prevent her smoking from a long cigarette holder.
She laid herslf spreadeagled on the cold floor, her body in the shape of a pentagram. Her coven spread around the circle were chanting in a language that even I did not understand. She ushered me forward and I stepped into the circle. My clothes were tore off me and I was pressed down on top of Rosaleen.
The ritual sex was fantastic, and the juices bottled for the next dosing of the masses of homeless potential victims of the TROLL.......................................................
I get the feeling that this is the help she said I needed.
I felt used as a walked the streets of Kings Cross, bottle in hand, dazed but at least warmed. I'll stay here till New Year but no longer. If Titan wants me here longer then he can come and keep me company.
not the smoking kind!
What a title eh!
It seems there a some really weird fruit loops roaming america preaching shit about God and Homo's being damned to hell
Well so fucking what.
If its true and god hates fags, then....... Homo's will go to hell fair enough it there choice but why jump up and down and make a scene about it, its there life, if they want to be gay and go to hell thats up to them
I just dont understand why people have to jump up and down bleating on about God trying to ram it down peoples throats when its about choice anyway.
These God bleaters are going to heaven, they are blessed to be angels so why do they rant and rave so, i'll tell you why
Cause God dont exist, Gods fuck all, they know it, we know it and they are shit scared about it so they need to believe that there rants and raves are going to convince themselves and the rest of the world that god loves them
Get a fucking life before its all over and you die and realise you've wasted all your life ranting about a figment of yor insane imagination
WORSHIP CROWLEY
He's the only god you need
God Hates Fag's
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lmfao I can't believe you.
You know...despite I have been called such names in my life. I take offense to this, but I let it slide...
The comments are directed at the preachers not gay people
and i write in a british sarcastic way towards the preachers not gay people
my brothers are both gay and I love them to bits....
Legend has it that when its time for your soul to be taken, your flesh gets ripped into agonising ribbons and your soul gets carried to hell in the mouth of a Hell Hound.
Just a small price to pay for the benefits of demon ritual
Bring it on!
Barghest, Galleytrot, Hell Hound, Padfoot, Shuck, Snarleyow, Striker, Trash, Wish or Whist Hound, Yell or Yelp Hound – to name a few. They have many aims: prophecy, revenge, bloodlust, the hunt or merely a warning; but they are always dark and dangerous, and always to be taken very seriously.
Black Arts magicians can summon the help of a hell hound if they so wish. They can only be set upon followers of the Light or do the bidding of a 7th Level Demon
Happy Hell Raising
I've just booked my Body Piercing course and in a few months time will be a newly qualified body piercer
Can't wait to get my hands on all those sadistic people and start causing them pain for pleasure lmao
Meliniy love you couldn't perform a session of Reiki if Usui himself possessed your body for the night
You don't DO Reiki you eat sleep, shit and breathe it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Seems like she has made yet a 5th journal today. LMAO. Retards, they are like slinkys. Worthless but they still make you laugh when you push them down the steps.
Oh no - is she onto you now? LOL!
LOL @ Freja too true hun
I think she is onto everyone Isis lol
I have now got installed SKYHD and what a delightful viewing pleasure it is
There is no television like it and I reccomend to anyone who hasnt got it and can afford it to do so
One minute she is propositioning me for SEX, and wishing me happy birthday and then when I tell her I'm not interested she does this
Meliniy
Date: 16:12:39 Jan 13 2010
Rating: 1
lmao omfg i love the did jesus burn in hell im Obviously.. U dont understand me an you assumed i was in u expectation but.. i was taught to deffend myself when I needed to with the laws and the ways of theluciferian 9 laws... unlike you claiming to be one or a satanist
SILLY CHILD
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WTF? LMAO...
I couldn't understand her explanation at all.
Hell hath no fury, indeed!
me neither lol
Like I said in my journals about her, I need asprin!!!!
well lady kem I incured her wrath just for you lmfao it was worth it
Lots and lots of changes and exciting times ahead plus its my birthday today and i'm 36 years young or as someone dear to me said its my Hatching Day LOL
I'm vamping out, seriously!
Today has to be the day........
It pains me when I see others shooting their mouths off about shit they got know right shooting about.
Its like these fucking saddos spend all there waking days on the internet and that existance seems to blend into their realities until the only reality is the internet.
It becomes there world there life and then they get above there station and feel they can bully, harass, intimidate, lie and generally upset people I love on here.
It grits my shit!
My Son has a heart condition, we dont know how serious it is yet but he is having so many tests ovet the next few weeks and its worrying us like hell
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Really sorry to hear that, hope all goes ok and its something that wont be too serious, its always a worry when its your kids.
I'm so sorry to hear that. I hope that he will be ok :)
Oh my - I wish the best for your son.
thanks for your thoughts its very much appreciated
I'm sorry to hear this. I hope the tests come out on a more positive note.
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xXTroublexX
21:17 Feb 03 2010
Isn't the history behind it a moot point?
LordBaalNox
02:34 Feb 04 2010
Yes your right it is, either way lol