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Does the imagination count? lol
I think sexual release would be problematic given that ghosts are supposedly incorporeal.
From a medical point of view, is totally impossible. The circulation of blood is needed to created an erection, and ghost do not have blood.
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A wet dream is nothing more than that but if a ghost is responsible that would technically constitute rape....though I would just like to see someone trying to say "A ghost raped me" in court or to the police.
Hypothetically, sure if they had telekinesis that affected even the living, I would assume they could bring sexual pleasure by remotely stimulting someone's genitals etc.
Having been a paranormal investigator for the past 27 years I have heard of these things but have never experienced them. People think that this is bizzare but these things do happen.
This is a complex subject, because the writer can infiltrate pass experience while watching a movie. Experience that has been placed on their sub-conscious. A Ghost can not remove your cover sheet or produce sound. IAW some paranormal expert, Ghost are pure energy, not a tangible one. Mean, you can not shake the hand of a Ghost.
If this happens I would imagine that it means your dream body or spirit is able to have a sexual relationship with the ghost, in the dreamscape.
I would doubt that a ghost would be able to maintain any kind of physical interaction long enough for climax. Even a really quick one.
If people are claiming that they are having waking sex with a ghost I would have to say it smells like a reach.
Now, a medium possessed, example like Whoopi Goldberg x Demi Moore...
that might work.
In more primal settings, there have been cases of women being psychically pregnant with supposedly ghost babies. I heard stories like this growing up, when I was a wee child. I have never understood the concept of a incubus or a succubus "molesting" you as you are sleeping, because when you use the word "sex", it usually connotes with consent, between consenting parties, otherwise it is usually known as rape. Semantics, I know. I have had several encounters a couple of years back (very recent) of being psychically assaulted.
I sure as hell did no consenting to any of this! Pardon my French, but, while I was between the dream-state and wake-state, I could actually feel something push itself into me. It was only later on did I discover that this strange dream-awake stage was called "lucid dreaming". I mean, I would love the real thing, but, having sex with a ghost? No, thank you. Needless to say, I was pretty shaken up, as it had happened quite a few times. So, upon some advice, I burnt sage, and did some spring cleaning around the room and house. It stopped after that. I don't wish to be at the end of bad vibes, but, it was quite a jolting experience.
Here is one of the better films out there on the web on this topic. I am unsure if I am violating any copyright issues, but, here goes, anyway:
What creeps me out here is that the actor in that movie is the same guy that plays the lawnmower man, but I digress.
There was/is a recorded account of a woman getting pregnant by a spirit. Mary. The Holy Spirit. "Joseph, son of David," the angel said, "do not be afraid to take Mary as your wife. For the child within her was conceived by the Holy Spirit." Mary was asleep and in her dream she was... and the Holy Spirit came upon her. Also, Elizabeth, who was barren, was somewhere in her 60s or 70s or 80s, had never been able to have children at all, was past child-bearing capability, and yet with her husband Zacharias, who also was past that capability, conceived and carried in her womb the great prophet, John the Baptist. In both case these women were visited by Spirits.
I've always had this in between the lines conclusion that divine conception skips the sex part. Though they are outstanding examples to the subject here.
I've always imagined that these acts occur while they were sleeping.
There is no doubt that spirits come in all shapes, sizes, and tastes. That being said, if the spirit of a nymphomaniac finds their way to you through your discussion pertaining to them... draw your own conclusion because it was you that opened yourself up to them.
Scour your mind because it is highly possibly that you called them in and due to this agreement the experience is being had.
Then again, maybe it is all just a dream...
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So Jesus' mother was raped, how amusing. No one batted an eyelash that she had no choice in the matter. The bible sure likes bashing women.
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I shouldn't even be warning you again, but I will before you get another strike against you with suspension. Cancer says "Posts that ridicule the philosophical tenants of any religion" are forbidden in our forum. Read the FAQ in the left menu. Mind the rules, or lose the privilege.
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Oh dearie, if humanity is free to believe in any religion they want, and in anything in general i.e ghosts and this thread is about ghost sex then why should Mary Mary quite contrary be left out? its the most infamous example of someone getting knocked up by a ghost, and I find it amusing that such an obvious pc term for what "actually" happened is glossed over but fair enough... I will stick to ghosts. ;)
When I viewed this thread at first, I didn't think I would have much to add now I am remembering something...there is a movie based upon real events, to clarify it "claims" to be based on real events. I have heard that before.
Well its about a woman who is not only being haunted but is being attacked and raped by some phantom entity. The film was called stigmata or the entity or something, anyway at the end it states despite a decrease in attacks, they still happen....perhaps the woman should have invested in a electrified chastity belt.
See why would ghosts do this? no blood flow means no phantom nobel prize popping up and being incorporeal and made out of ectoplasm, no nerve endings or ability to feel, so the act is kind of pointless unless its done out of simple cruelty in which cases its quite effective, but wouldn't possession be better, in potential.. able to feel what the host is feeling, and one gets to live again so to speak.
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Very interesting concept Mort!
I know a while back Travel Channel did a special on Ghostly Relationships with Zak Bagans from Ghost Adventures. It was very interesting watch. I'll see if I can find clips to the show.
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Personally I would find ghostly relationships....unhealthy.
You may as well just be a necrophiliac, hell you would actually be gaining physical friction that is needed that way lol
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I would say it would be unhealthy since on the show, the ghosts fed (there were three different stories if I remember right) off their energy.
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The incident you are speaking of Mort is called "The Entity" in which allegedly a young single mother living in California was being repeatedly raped by an unseen force or forces of a supernatural nature. Upon further investigation by investigators, it was determined that the young mother was under an extreme amount of stress at the time during these poltergeist-like attacks. They theorized that it could very well have been a case of psychokinesis and not a ghost at all. Psychokinesis or Telekinesis is said to usually stem from young adolescent girls or women who are under an extreme amount of stress so much that the energy given off causes havoc with the natural environment. Usually the person doing this has no idea it is themselves causing the seemingly supernatural attacks and the attacks are likened to poltergeist activity, people being touched or assaulted in a violent or lewd manner, things being thrown about, and other odd happenings.
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So if she had telekinesis...she was what? raping herself? Heh.
What a waste, TK has many applications that could be useful but I suppose these things usually happen subconsciously so its not in their control.
There is also a number of mental illnesses that could create such a scenario such as Apophenia, Pareidolia, or hyper sensitivity to natural energies that can cause a number physical ailments and hallucinations. This coupled along with the power of suggestion could account for a lot of alleged paranormal activities. The human mind is a very powerful and highly misunderstood organ. People say the oceans and space are that last frontiers yet to be fully explored, but in truth it is the human mind that holds this title and for good reason. Yes, we could do a lot of good in terms of healing, but not all would use that power for the greater good.
@ Umyalanaraku
You know, the funny thing about these movies... it always boils down to the conundrum : Does Life imitate Art or does Art imitate Life? When you wach movies, you always think, "There must be some truth in them... but, unfortunately, I don't know what it is."
Having been under a trememdous amount of stress once, which was when I began experiencing hallucinations and this whole "ghost rape" thing, I came to one conclusion: I don't know.
It could be explained by science, to a certain extent, like what Lazarus did. Or, it could be as what Cinnamon and Mordrakus mentioned and speculated. Pardon me for stating the obvious (if I actually am doing that)... Nice!
Perhaps where one person reads obvious, someone else reads depth.
And to that point, someone can read or watch a book or a piece of art once, then view the same thing again with fresh eyes and have a totally different perspective.
Here in this ghost thread, I made reference to the movie ghost.
For those that chat with me here, I'd be captain obvi to state that I tend to make a lot of references.
Now for years, I've pondered a variation of your question. Does life imitate art or is it the other way around. I used to be ok with, "a little bit of both".
But after many discussions here, on VR, with this collection of intuitive yet unique individuals, among a nest of other black sheep, I asked myself that question again, but with fresh eyes.
And like my first post in the Past lives thread, I believe that the "both" I originally settled for is really a poetic expression for what collective memory is.
Perhaps ghost sex isn't so far fetched. Maybe the real reach, the true stretch, is the physical prison plane of existence we call reality.
Here is a thought for every one to ponder on.
When two people are about to be engaged in some kind of sexual relations with each other both bodies emit certain energies that cause the other to be aroused so intensly that it causes the big bam before anything goes on figuturitivly speaking hehe
But who is not to say that a ghost or spirit can not manifest themselves with that same type of energy and cause what Cinnamon has described as ghost sex?
The scene in ghostbusters is irrelevant to what is being said and I now most of you seeing the title is the first thing to comes to mind. This is an energy released by a spirit. No physical contact just energies.
Energies play a different part in every ones lives and in the paranormal sense that is what gives these entities power enough to show through to some one no matter what the circumstances.
my ex girlfriend had some sort of issue with this once upon a time. she mentioned that they has a seance or something a year or two previous, and that since then she would constantly feel like she was basically being molested/raped by something. i noticed she would ocassionally start crying and moving around and when i asked she decribed it to me. so in my experience, yes its a real thing.
I pondered on that thought G, and I see what you did there.
And I like it.
My original suspicion was based on a lack of physical experience. But we've talked about the deadwood conductor theory and that is based on personal experience.
And if wood can act as a conduit for ghost energy, the uses you describe of active ghost energy isn't a huge jump at all.
Moreover, the mind makes things real.
can you imagine how awkward it would be to walk in on someone with a ghost just seeing their body expand and contract and NOTHING BEING THERE. So weird.
Outside of dreaming or one being in a state of sleep paralysis, where the experience completely occurs within the mind, I'd imagine walking in as a 3rd party to witness the event would be a bit awkward to say the least.
But if there is legitimate physical activity between a living person and a ghost, I'd like to think there would be some kind of signature, trace, frequency, or thermal/electrical residue of some sort that could be viewed with proper equipment.
Li, that post was amazing. It gave me the chills.
I am working on the assumption that these evil entities exist, as I have first-hand experiences. I did exhibit some physical symptoms of having bruises, but, lucky me, I have always believed in these things, so I worked on my prior knowledge at the first instance. I must stress that it does not happen to everyone. I am not sure of the selection criteria or the selection basis of such trauma victims. What I can stress is this: It is real. Very real.
Not only does it affect the victim sexually, it also affects the victim as much as a possession does. These entities feed off negative emotions, such as fear, anger and pain.
One advice I can give is this: keep your surroundings clean and habitable. Sometimes, it is good to burn sage, candles or incense just to clear the place up. Doing these thing, keep these evil entities at bay. Just my two cents.
Creepy post, Li.
The investigators corroboration of her story make that video an interesting case. I haven't seen the movie yet, but I'll certainly add it on my must watch list now.
Those in the spiritual dimensions (ghosts, etc) are just moving at a higher vibration. Like metals vibrations are slow. Just takes training for them to be able to slow down and manifest into the physical world. It doesn't happen often but it does happen.
ghost sex ?.... interesting to be honest."
so would you be inlove wiht a ghost then if you had sex with them?
American horror story anyone? Lol
Butt on a more serious note, many things happen that we can't explain so I don't see why not
Interesting topic here. As to the aspects of this I'd have to look at it more. To form an opinion. Not sure what I think about it.
Incubi and Succubi: Sexual Relations With Demons page 84 of "The Evil Bible" from The Joy of Satan Ministries gives you a method of purposefully engaging in sexual relations with demons in a favorable and desirable way. The author also talks about her own experiences with it.
I am seriously considering engaging in this activity. The thought is too irresistible.
I don`t know if it helps but for jewish males in the old byblic times, self-satisfaction was forbidden because their semen in these conditions could create demon with the succuby females that supposed to have spiritual forms.
Interesting concept, "science" may discount individual experiences, but for the people affected, this phenomenon is very real.
I wouldn't know how it could be possible. A male needs blood flow to create an erection, and ghosts don't have blood. Plus they are not corporeal so the actual physics and mechanics of sex are against them.
Personally I don't think physical contact with ghosts is possible without possession. Other explanations could be a psychotic episode during a PTSD flashback or rape, sleep paralysis and/or being assaulted by something other than a ghost, like a demon.