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Anyone with Coulrophobia should watch this movie.. thru their fingers!

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KingOfTheZombies
03:46 Sep 18 2013

I believe Rob Zombie has coulrophobia (fear of clowns). Which is why (I believe) he puts them in his movies.

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dabbler
03:55 Sep 18 2013

Yea he mentioned that in an interview he did, he said there is just something to creepy about clowns. I like Captain Spalden.

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PhoenicianDream
15:00 Sep 19 2013

That movie looks more comedy than scary.



Captain Spaulding is my FAVORITE clown character! ♥



"Don't we make ya laugh? Aren't we fuckin' funny? You best come up with an answer, cos I'm gonna come back here and check on you and your momma and if you ain't got a reason why you hate clowns, I'm gonna kill your whole fucking family."



hahaha my favorite line :D

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Church of Satan 101



David Shankbone: How would you define the word Satan?



Peter Gilmore: Satan is a model or a mode of behavior. Satan in Hebrew means “adversary” or “opposer”; one who questions. Since we generally are skeptical atheists, we question all spirituality. We believe that carnality is all that exists and the spiritual dimensions are fictional. So we stand against eastern and western religions that promote fictions, according to our perspectives. So we are adversaries. Satan to us is an exemplar. When we look at how he is portrayed by Mark Twain in Letters from the Earth, or Byron, or Milton’s Paradise Lost, he ends up being an inspirational symbol to us. We say we would like to be more like that. We will not bow our heads; we will be independent. We will constantly question.



DS: What is the Church of Satan?



PG: Satanism begins with atheism. We begin with the universe and say, “It’s indifferent. There’s no God, there’s no Devil. No one cares!” So you then have to make a decision that places yourself at the center of your own subjective universe, because of course we can’t have any kind of objective contact with everything that exists. That’s rather arrogant and delusional, people who try to put things that way. So by making yourself the primary value in your life, you’re your own God. By being your own God, you are comfortable about making your own decisions about what to value. What’s positive to you, is good. What harms you, is evil. You extend it to things that you cherish and the people that you cherish. So it’s actually very easy to see that it’s a self-centered philosophy.

But it also requires responsibility, since you are taking on for yourself the complete onus for your personal success or failure. You can’t be praying to a God or blaming a devil, or anyone else, for that matter, for what happens to you. It’s on your own head. That’s a challenge for most people. Most people tend to really feel that they want some kind of external support, that they are outward looking and might want some sort of supernatural parental figure, or even some sort of existing governmental authority, existing in their life.



DS: Why do you think people are like that?



PG: I think there are actually two kinds of people. There are the kind of people who need that, and the kind that don’t. The kind that don’t are the smaller percentage of our species. It’s as simple as that.

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KingOfTheZombies
23:40 Sep 17 2013

Anyone who blames the Devil for their own actions is a fool anyway.



However, not believing in the Devil won't save one from him. LOL

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A must watch for anyone fascinated by the multiple personality case of Sybil. Or other shady psychological cases, such as The Satanic Panic.

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KISS
20:35 Sep 17 2013

Thank you, for sharing.

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dabbler
21:38 Sep 17 2013

Something about that story never quite jived with me, and all the cases that sprang up afterwards just added to my quirky feeling.

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I wonder if those that believe in supernatural experiences are weary of other believers who come across as just to fantastical?



Fantastical individuals that weave tales about experiences depreciate the credibility of those who sincerely experience something remarkable, or phenomenal. Such individuals propagate when there is no basic inquiry into their often generalized, and over emphasized forum.



Why are believers so dependent on others accepting their testimonies?



Is it a bid for equality? Wanting others to accept them as equal through a shared experience? Or insecurity (the more people they convince, the more secure their belief).



After all a person who is telling tales eventually smells sour, even to other believers.





I can plainly witness any number of forum post that are nothing but scribbled notes rife with buzz words, and preemptive defense against anyone who would dare scrutinize their testimony. I mean there are people who would make any claim without batting an eyelash if it is remotely trendy.

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lordess
18:04 Sep 17 2013

I'm thinking this goes way back into our genetics. I can't speak for everyone who's have had supernatural experiences, be it something to do with the paranormal or otherwise, but I know what I know. Growing up, in school, we would take turns spinning ghostly tales about our school and the "huanted" homes nearby. We were all after the adrenaline rush that it gave us. The "flight or fight" situation that must have faced our ancestors from way back then. Our need for survival, the courage, the faith, our beliefs, are all sorely tested. It is a primitive force that we all deal with. We get thrills from watching horror movies. Even if a movie is bad, it "speaks" to each one of us. Our base emotions are revealed and discovered without having to experience those emotions first-hand... with almost no negative consequences. As for fabrication, sometimes it's all in good fun... and something that cannot be prevented. It's like the yin and yang of life. :)

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Onus probandi – from Latin "onus probandi incumbit ei qui dicit, non ei qui negat" the burden of proof is on the person who makes the claim, not on the person who denies (or questions the claim). It is a particular case of the "argumentum ad ignorantiam" fallacy, here the burden is shifted on the person defending against the assertion.

Petitio principii – see begging the question.

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lordess
14:34 Sep 16 2013

Yes, that's true.

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KingOfTheZombies
15:44 Sep 16 2013

Then there are people who believe something and will make a statement and simply do not care if you believe them or not.



For them, "proof" is not required because they know what they believe is truth. Believable to others or not.



For them, there is no "burden."

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dabbler
16:07 Sep 16 2013

I find such people to be rare, more then often people rely on the response to the claim. If it is received positively they are validated, if the claim is not received, or scrutinized then the person feels rejected, and invalidated. This is why I avoid people who place their emotions, and self esteem in the same basket as their beliefs, and alleged experiences.



In the case of people who claim to have gifts, or abilities why wouldn't a person (believer, or not) not ask for a demonstration?

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KingOfTheZombies
18:27 Sep 16 2013

I wouldn't. Simply because those types of "gifts" are not interesting enough to me. And, telling me that one has such "gifts," already tells me all that I need to know. Not about who they are but rather, about what they believe.



And if they are "gifts," they had to be given. Which begs the more important question. Who gave one such "gifts?"

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Spill the Beans, and screen shot the offensive material!

I am reading all these journals that allude to people offending somebody, and yet they never seem to care enough to post any supporting material (AKA Evidence), damn a majority of the time they don't even call the person by username.

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deathnitegrl
10:27 Sep 15 2013

at least their drama happens on-line, in a place where you can block and ignore. Irl you can't block and ignore someone you're forced to see everyday.

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We are the sum total of the consequences of our actions, or inaction, to randomly presented situations.

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Xzavier
06:54 Sep 08 2013

Very much agree

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Fall Reading Schedule



Finish Reading

The Theory and Practice of Hell- Eugen Kogan Survivor of Buchenwald Concentration Camp



Followed by rereading of "The Jungle" by Upton Sinclair



Then, rereading of "Animal Farm" by George Orwell

A profound author if you haven't read anything by Henry Miller I suggest Sexus, Nexus, and Plexus a series of books about his odd life. At the forefront of his signature style is his intense commend of vocabulary, indeed on finds a gem of word in each paragraph, if not sentence.