Fed UP04:19 Jan 31 2008
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In response to my statment on a thread in the main formum about our freedom of speech being blocked again, and being told that government laws had no jursdiction here I found this quote,"Information wants to be free, and the Internet fosters freedom of speech on a global scale.
The Internet is a common area, a public space like any village square, except that it is the largest common area that has ever existed. Anything that anybody wishes to say can be heard by anyone else with access to the Internet, and this world-wide community is as large and diverse as humanity itself. Therefore, from a practical point of view, no one community's standards can govern the type of speech permissible on the Internet. In the words of John Barlow, a founding member of the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) -- "In Cyberspace, the First Amendment is a local ordinance".
sited from : http://www.livinginternet.com/i/ip_speech.htm "
this is the response i recieved from sahahria
Sire (28)
"babiesgirl you are on the wrong site. When you agreed to Vampire Rave terms of service you agreed to a Cancerocracy.
Your freedom here is purely by Cancer's will."
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Really?????
well hows this, I read all of the VR terms of service and no where in any of it did it say we are under a "Cancerocracy" I have also reread all of the VR manual and still have found no such statement anywhere.
have a look for yourself people i am including the TOS herein. this site is full of a bunch of narrow minded, idiotic , freedom of speech impairing assinine jerks who think they can rule with an iron fist. If it were not for my coven mates and friends i would leave this site in an instant. I will no longer rate any profile that is not apart of the coven I reside with, nor will I post in the forum, or polls.
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COMMENTS
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sahahria
04:26 Jan 31 2008
I would carefully re-read the Termination section and I would also re-read the Disclaimer of Warranties namely part b.
If you still feel your “freedom” of speech has been violated, I encourage you to take it up with a Regent or Cancer himself.
babiesgirl
04:41 Jan 31 2008
i have re-read those sections in particular and still find no where claiming this site to be a "Cancerocracy" It states no where that we have no freedom of speech within this site..... and considering it states in several locations throughout the TOS that the site is governed by local and government laws and regulations.... one would say that freedom of speech is to be included. If you are referring to part b,"(b) VAMPIRERAVE.COM MAKES NO WARRANTY THAT (i) THE SERVICE WILL MEET YOUR REQUIREMENTS," Freedom of speech is a part of our rights, and as far as I am concerned does not fall under this category.
and as for the section on termination ......... According to the TOS and the VR manual I have in no way infracted on any rules/regulations within this site
SouthernFreak
07:56 Jan 31 2008
I read the thread in forum. babiesgirl, I think your post were extremely valid. I'm not sure why the experiment continues to be posted. Only conclusion I can come up with is because of who is involved with it. Had the people involved been different, that post would never have been allowed so many times.