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While the idea of such techniques as Reiki have become more popular recently due to the wave of 'New Age' therapies, and general openness of the public to try holistic practices, the entire arena of energy healing is still roundly criticised by the medical community and lacks little if any supporting scientific evidence of benefit.



So the 'normal' place referred to here, is in fact, abnormal to the standard methodologies and common perceptions of health treatment.



The provable facts of humans sharing body heat, for example, or breath, or even electro-static charges, give us the means to perceive and measure the energetic interactions, but have not yet extended to encompass the ideas of one persons thoughts directing their own energy into anothers' system, in order to manipulate it.



This is where the science diverges from the theoretical, in my own opinion, since we can only witness for ourselves and choose to believe based on our own individual perceptions and experiences.



If a person has never experienced, nor seen for themselves the effects of an energy exchange between two beings, then how can they believe it is possible?



If they have known this, as in the case of Reiki, can it then be equated with 'energy vampirism', since the two involve much the same process?



This is the crux of the matter here, in that there is no perceived difference between the continual flow of energies on a non-concious level, and the specifically targeted functions of a concious intent.



However, it seems that the question being asked, is whether there is anything within the method of energy vampirsim that can only be attributed to such a person?



For this, we have again only our own experiences and understanding of it all.



In answering the following questions, I feel that I am able to find a differentiation between a person who might qualify as an energy vampire and a person who may not.



Within everyday interaction of society, do we transfer our emotions to one another on a fundamental level, or do we in fact cause one another to feel based on our communication and body language?



When we lay hands on or close to another, we pass heat and perhaps we pass energy, but how far can those hands be before the flow is no longer effective?



Can a person think of another and manifest their own energy in a non-localised form around another? By this, I mean can someone else 'feel' the flow from a person around and within themselves, but not have them nearby?



What form does visualisation take when these 'common' transfers of energy take place? Are there any at all?



Crucially, what gain might a person obtain from another during this energy exchange?

Seems like it is the human condition to not believe in something until it has happened to them personally or can be prooved by Bunsen and Beaker.



Until more recent years have such activities and abilities been branded as "Vampirism". Centuries ago, energy work has been used in many different ways including Buddhist Monks working hard and channeling their energy into doing what, to most, seem impossible. Mind over matter.



I find it insulting that some people glaze over the human ability to work with energy as Vampirism just because they want to make themselves seem more exciting.

Morrigon,



I very much agree with you that practices can and will be misinterpreted, either through ignorance, or to push an agenda, such as to provide legitimacy to a claim of vampirism.



What I would add, is that there can be a state outside of even those ancient and revived ideas, one which we can identify as its own way of being.

If a person holds a thing to be true and can express it so well...that's great. Yes a natural ability can always be worked on....but the more I think about it, the more I agree with Images.

A further response to this topic which I wanted to save;



Lagniappe,



Is it really more, or is it something different that's sought, needed even?



You're a person who understands the flow of energy about and within a person, so looking at it from the point of view of being unable to 'prove' anything, how can we prove that Reiki works?



By observable results, of course. A person comes away from treatment feeling better about themselves, they have a marked difference in their stance, their attitude, their energy patterns for instance.



But this is not measurable by any conventional means of blood tests, scans or other device. Yet it's believed, by both the practitioner and recipient, to have worked.



And when we talk about energy exchange in this thread, there is little to no distinction being made between different types of energy and interaction.



In Reiki, as I understand it, the individuals' own energy is used, in a sense, reshaped to to be placed back into their system with a beneficial purpose. This is not the same as eating food as an outside source of additional energy for survival.



We also might all want to share the warmth of another body next to ours, yet in cases of freezing to death, we need to in order to survive that.



We all of us, everything which lives, needs to be fed, but are the functions of an energy deficient being fully satisfied by food?



Take for example three recognised disorders;



- Seasonal Affective Disorder

- Myalgic Encephalomyelitis

- Chronic Fatigue Syndrome



None of which are linked to diet, but all of which produce symptoms of tiredness, depression and physical weakness.



In each of these cases, there appears to be no identifiable root cause, nor a single 'cure all' solution to them.



Those who suffer from those conditions need to have additional input to their energy systems in order to operate 'normally'.



So while this goes some way to proving that there are those who claim to 'need' energy who are clinically recognised, it does legitimise the point that a 'psychic vampire' may not be all that special at all.





However, leading on to your second post here, it would seem more acceptable to have a vampire which wants, rather than needs.



Is want any less of a need when we get into the realms of the psychology of addiction?



And further, what might it be called if we are non-consciously wanting something- how can our concious minds understand the differences?



And then to open up metaphysics, are vampires in need of something bound to the soul, which drives a psychological state and hence, a resultant psycho-somatic induced physical affliction?



Or it might be something more fundamental. Could it be a certain pattern of energy, a matter of how the flows of energy work within the system of the individual?



In the East, Chi and Medians, Prana and Chakras, are all concepts understood for considerably longer than electronics, but we as a society seem to place more trust in the sight of a TV screen working, than we do in the fact that we are alive at all.



Here we can hypothesise all night about whether a vampire has, as some claim, a fundamentally different pattern of sustaining life energy flowing through them, one which presses their need for additional input in order to maintain that flow in a state where they can operate just as does everyone else.



But as you say, we can prove nothing, yet we can believe anything we choose to, and in doing so, we create ourselves.

I already responded to these queries in another thread on much the same topic, but these questions were a bit more specific.



I came to VR to find out about how those who exist within the bounds of the 'real living vampire' concept operate, how the social structures work, the different personality types that can grow out of the choice to call ones self a 'vampire'.



But at the same time, I find the mythical/fictional representation fascinating, both as a reflection upon the cultural ideal which people subscribe to, and as a source material for the sub-culture to assimilate and grow with (or not).



In the forum, I like to see well thought out ideas, presented in an understandable and cohesive manner, which lend me to ask questions for myself.



It's a rare find to come across anything of particular interest in terms of my personal goals, but after years of looking for those with answers to the most burning questions, I realise that I will not find them among the members here, so I refrain from creating new threads just for the sake of it.



I much prefer to wait in hope that someone with the greater knowledge comes along, to show that there are people with skill and experience who are willing to impart it to those who genuinely require guidance.



Every position in an argument is valid, but the separation of discussions into those which focus primarily on the known fantasy, and those which want to explore the potential reality is much needed.



Just because some are fed up with the attempts to discuss the topic of 'human living vampires', does not discredit the topic. Equally as many are likely bored with the continual regurgitation of the fictional.



What concerns me personally, is when those who act with assumed authority attempt to pass themselves off as experts, and intertwine the absolutely fantastical with the real. They are sycophants and have the potential to harm, under the guise of mentorship.



Some might call this a bluff to keep the masses off of the trail of those who live life according to the desires and needs of the vampiric state, but really, they are self-serving agendas designed to bolster popularity and status within a virtual environment, where the lines between truth and a lie are constantly blurred.

necrop,



I did read all of the previous responses, but I'm going to pass over replying to them and address your question directly, since I disagree with so many.



I understand your frustrations and there was a time when the forum was less of a playground and more of a place to actually discuss a topic, rather than provide short responses to the original topic in the hopes of increasing that post count.



Unfortunately, as the site and the membership changed, the interest in the serious study of the theoretical existence of vampires, and the researches associated with that, have taken a back seat to the fantastical.



This is not necessarily a negative thing, just different to what it could have been. There are many other sites which look at vampirism as a valid state of being and strictly base their forum content upon that premise, but on VR, the majority are young people with little or no experience of the occult, as you are probably noticing.



The blend on VR then gets a bit mushy when someone begins a thread from either stance, real or fictional, and the respondents often take it upon themselves to drive their own agenda, regardless of the initial intentions of the thread.



It then polarises the camps into those who believe and those who don't. Each has valid arguments, but neither seems able to 'live and let live'.



If a thread creator wishes to see a specific topic discussed as a serious study, then they need to indicate that, otherwise it will likely be filled with opinionated responses.



The trouble I find now, is that the majority of threads are so poorly presented in terms of the information that they contain and the questions they seek answers to, that those with the ability and knowledge to contribute on an almost academic level, rarely find the inclination to do so.



Further, the fact that children make up a large proportion of the membership, does create some ethical questions on content. Generally acceptable topics on other sites may not be appropriate to discuss here.



Probably the only real supported discussions will come from the threads on history of the legend, medical disorders, psychology, sociology, the books and other media, etc, as there is obtainable evidence to bring to the table on these.



The hypothetical existence of people living with vampire traits is pure conjecture, which may be founded in logical assumption, but is more in the realm of philosophy, rather than science, in my own opinion.



This makes it increasingly difficult to fulfil the needs for hard fact and documentation.



I am glad that there are still some people who are willing to take it as a possibility, and not close their minds off to theories which can make sense, but I feel that those are in the minority on VR.



Thank you for raising the question and I am regretful that you have found a need to ask it.

I agree



*runs*

This sounds interesting, I'd love to read more. :P



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