A Debate About the Beliefs of Sang and PSI Vampirism
12:49 Oct 16 2009
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This is in my opinion an interesting debate I got involved in with a thread in the Main VR Forum. I have color coded each person with the forum starter in green, me in red, and the person debating with me in white. Please feel free to leave your comments and opinions on this subject.
someguy
Caitiff (17)
Posts: 45
Psi or Sang
Posted: 02:22:18 - Sep 15 2009
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I have seen many different beliefs and theories towards vampyres, the most common of which I found was Psi and Sang.
What is your take on Psi and Sanguinarians, do you think a vampyre has both abilities or only one?
How would you define a real vampire? or even define a fake?
Anything interesting or history found over this is welcome too.
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xeSevirD
Evil One (74)
Posts: 20
Psi or Sang
Posted: 03:43:40 - Oct 16 2009
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I do believe very much that a person can "need" the energy that is in the blood. There are very real people with very real needs for this energy. You have heard of those who are born with an immunity deficiency? Meaning they cannot heal on their own and require special vitamins or drugs to aid in this process. Well the need for energy is not unlike this. Each human has two bodies. A physical one and an astral one. The astral body requires energy to sustain itself and there are those that cannot produce this energy on their own. I am a sanguine vampire and my wife is a PSI vampire. Neither of us actually "have" to have this extra energy to survive or realy even to stay healthy. But it does give a major boost to our happiness and prevents so much irritability. We feed off of each other and get something not much different that a high much like the effects of marijuana yet somewhat different. And for some this energy is an upper and for others it may cause them to relax and go into a uphoric state. For some however, this taking of energy whether it be through blood or someone or some thing's psychic energy is necesary to remain healthy and for some to even survive. This is also one theory for the myth of immortality. It is believed by some that people who learn to feed psychically as a second nature in life, can keep the astral body alive for ages after death as long as it can maintain this energy off living things. Humans, as well as animals, or even trees and running streams of water.
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vvSoulshroudevv
Elemental (77)
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Psi or Sang
Posted: 06:36:59 - Oct 16 2009
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I still cannot believe that society falls prey to the manipulate guise of the whole "Strigoivii" nonesense, that instigates there are two differant type of vampiric stereotypes IE "sang" and "psi."
Is the population that impressionable to look for any distinct characteristics just to prove to one another what they think they are?
Why live by a clause of two definitions for what one thinks they can relate to because of the characteristics that their bodies may endure?
For the psi - Is there any real proof that the spirit actually needs to feed of of "psychic" energies, do you really understand this concept enough to know what it means, as well as if it is not just a placebo in order to trick the mind and or body into thinking that it is in fact "healing" itself?
For the sang - Is there any real proof that by introducing blood into the system, that this stabalizes any sort of condition that the body may have aside from the obvious medical conditions IE Anemia? Or helps the body to survive, look younger, feel younger, get rid of mild to major physical ailments such as depression, anxieties, etc?
If not, then walk out of the fantasy world already and see it like it is. Who is the "community" really trying to impress, themselves to gain more self esteem, or their peers for that added appreciation value, to fit in and to belong?
Seems like more of a personal problem to me...
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xeSevirD
Evil One (74)
Posts: 20
Psi or Sang
Posted: 07:44:52 - Oct 16 2009
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Here is one of a few definitions of "vampire" listed in the dictionary.
"one who lives by preying on others"
(Quoted from vvSoulshroudevv
"I still cannot believe that society falls prey to the manipulate guise of the whole "Strigoivii" nonesense, that instigates there are two differant type of vampiric stereotypes IE "sang" and "psi.")
As I am assuming that what I said is some of what brought on your last post let me say that I don't believe that vampirism is limited to only "sang" and "psi". By speaking of only these two I am merely staying on topic with the thread at hand. According to that definition that I posted a "vampire" may be a number of things. A con man who uses deception can be considered a "vampire" for example. An "attention whore" for lack of a better word, who demmands the attention of an entire room, or in this case forum box could be considered a "vampire". Even with the belief of energy manipulation such as what I believe would be more accurately associated with the likes of Reiki than "Strigoivii" (The definition of "strigoi vii" is "live witches who will become vampires after death") being thrown out, if you merely took blood from someone for your own consumption (with or WITHOUT the belief you are taking energy from it), you would still be considered a "vampire" by that definition.
You see by stating things like:
"Is there any real proof..." and
"If not, then walk out of the fantasy world already and see it like it is. Who is the "community" really trying to impress, themselves to gain more self esteem, or their peers for that added appreciation value, to fit in and to belong?"
.....you are also critisizing so many other things on an astronimical level. I can only assume that you are an Athiest as well for religion cannot be proven. There isn't a lot of what I stated in my previous post that can be proven. Only theories. I can tell you that after doing so, I promise you that I feel better mentally and physically. If I AM tricking myself into thinking I'm feeling better, in the end I am still feeling better whether you or mainstream society believes/likes it or not. And to me that is all that matters. I could give a shit about whether anyone other than myself is impressed by it. Just like my comparison with religion, at the end of the day if it makes you feel better, thats all that matters.
There were several other comments made but rather than take up so much more space with basically the same things said over and over again here is the last thing I said and no matter what else is said in this forum I have made my point and am done with it. After all, the biggest issues that people seem to be having with the terms "Psi" and "Sang" are only because they are considered labels. Get over it. Love it or not, you and everything else in this world will always be given a label.
xeSevirD
Hellion (73)
Posts: 21
Psi or Sang
Posted: 21:55:43 - Oct 19 2009
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I am finding most of the posts on this very interesting whether they are in agreement with my views or not and I have to say that there are at least one or two statements that have been posted by almost everyone in here that I agree with.
I also agree that the terms "Psi" and "Sang" are labels. But most things have labels. The idea of anyone getting upset or apaulled by the use of the two different names is rather rediculous. I hate to refer back to the apples and oranges statements but it does seem to be the best example to me. Sure a vampire is a vampire. But then again whether you call something an apple or an orange, they are both still fruit. Does anyone get upset that there are strawberries, and bananas? Would it make you feel better if they just did away with those labels and simply called them all just fruit? Like it or not, though they are both vampires, "Sang" means blood and "Psi" means psychic energy. Rather than being mere labels, can't these words be used simply as adjectives? I could simply tell someone I had some fruit with my dinner and it was yellow in color, had quite a bitter taste when used alone but very good when I squeezed it into my tea. Wouldn't this have been much simpler put if I had just said I use lemon with my tea? All I am saying is that "Psi" and "Sang" are only words used to describe certain aspects and features of different qualities. Good day to you Mollidew, vvSoulshroudevv, ps1v4mpv1. Or would you prefer to simply be referred to as goodbye to all you "people". After all using your names would simply be giving you labels.
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