I'm very curious it might kill me one day ^.^...any way does any one know how to find out more about their past life? I want to find out more about mine but I don't know how two start. Please tell how you discovered your own or advice on where to start. *curtsy*
Edit:moved to General Discussion since it fits there instead of the Mascara section. NG
In my point of view, as well as experiance on this particular subject...
The idea of the past life IE regression, dreams, experiances or whathaveyou, is pure speculation. Since the individual would be the only one aware of their past lives through vivid dreams, then any individual doing a past life reading would be a simple manipulation to entertain the individuals thought process concerning their past lives.
Unless of course the individual tries hypnosis for that past life regression scenerio. It does work on a minor scale.
But, theoretically there is really just the imagination playing tricks on the individual when any practitioner of "reading" past lives entertains this scenerio inparticular.
Truthfully, it may be only a guessing game when it comes to such a topic of conversation. Unless of course, the two individuals...IE the reader and the participant are well in due bounds of agreeance on the matter and all are satisfied.
In this case, the reading was in tune with what the individual was invisioning in the first place. Therefore any contradorty date would be discarded by the individual and back to stage one from there. Unfortunately this type of situation happens all the time.
I would recommend hypnosis above all tactics in finding out more about past life regression. Unless you know an experianced individual who has been accurate in the past.
I asked myself what is attracted to past life practices, what behavior it appeals to, I think it is relative nostalgia, similar to our interest in Geneology, I would imagine a past life regressionalist would have honed such skills. Perhaps time, occupation career type survays, all inquirred during
A relaxed state.
We all get nostalgia, theme parks bank on it.
Some parellels to role play character creation can be found, I learned a skill
Of aligning character and player.. A study of time lines, matched up with
Occupation type.. Makes nostalgia more complete, read a book from that era.
Study the area you would be in.
Ok so this is a member asking for help. It's great that so many have opinions but can we try and give her some advice. If you do not believe in past lives then there is really no point in you posting here as it wont be in any way helping with the question at hand.
When it comes to past lives some people get them in ways of reoccurring dreams, others by having a past life regression completed, and some just experience dejavu. If you are truly interested you may try going for the regression process. That seems to be what works for many.
Past Life Clues: Find Your Past Lives Without Hypnosis
by Hoppe Holloway, Karin Sue
This book may help you to begin. Wish you well on your journey.
The book gives you clues in your everday life that may help you to understand your past lives.
Yes there are alot of books and suchlike out there, hopefully your local library will have something which helps you.
You could try while in a state of relaxation to ask the question, 'who was I before now' and see what comes to mind.
Good luck.
The first step in learning about anything is to make reasonably certain that it isn't mere superstition. One can't learn much about mermaids, while they can learn much about mermaid mythology. One can't learn much about gremlins but they can learn much about gremlin myth. So far no one seems to have presented any compelling objective evidence to suggest that the idea of past lives is any different.
and there is a lot of good information in books out there to help you on the path to find out. dreams seem to trigger alot of these.
and it is up to you for beast said no proof given , yet no proof to dismay this either.
Check out a few books by Dr. Brian Weiss, he has some astonding research in past life regression therapy.
So my question is, does past life regression not rely on nostalgia?
I have actually talked (off the record) with past life regressionalist.
Any exercise that stimulates identiy is helpful, if the person is not overly expectant.
First off, why is it important to you?
For most of the people that I have tried to help to regress, so they could "access" a past life, it turned out that that they were merely trying to "access" a suppressed memory of either child or adolescent abuse (some just physical abuse by a parent, other sexual abuse) from early in their life. By viewing it as an "alternative"/past life, they felt they could "deal with it" emotionally better.
Leo
They have a set pitch, it was getting a few candid statements that counted.
Knowing that a good percentage of people that do past life seminars to learn to do them, are drop-outs from psyc. studies, that some short cut even the seminars, and courses, that the practice is not regulated as even some of those who practice wish it was.
The hypno theripist I talked to (on line) really wants better accounting for qualifications regulation, after getting fall-out clients from sloppy practices.
Those that go to enrich spirit, are usually suppresing emotional turmoil. Stuck-out as a noteable candid statement from Lyne.
You're wrong, Beastt. I have a purple feathered rattlesnake as my pet, and its name is Sophie.
lol.
Though feather rattlesnakes are common, the Purple in the purple feather is a misnomer, had beast simple looked this up he would have understood the matter better.
The under belly is purple, the feathers are not. So he wasn't completely wrong morte.
Actually when I started thinking about past lives etc I most certainly did not want to believe.
So for me anyway that was not a factor in what is now a truth for me.
Believing in a concept doesn't make it a truth anymore than disbelieving would make something untrue. Whether or not anything is true relies only upon its tendency to comply with reality. And what is a part of reality is a part for everyone, not just those who believe or disbelieve. We don't have our own individual realities. There is but one. And while there are anecdotal indications that perhaps some have knowledge of a former or alternate life which will cause many to leap to the conclusion that they have lead past lives, there is still no solid evidence to support such a conclusion.
My truth fits my reality nicely.
Based on personal evidence which as I mentioned was not particularly welcome at the time.
As to there being only one reality, well I'm not sure I would agree with you on that.
Personally do love this thread and the idea of tapping into one's past life. To see the trend that lies within it. Have never been able to master the ability to do past regression with myself, no matter how many books have read.
However did have the opportunity to have my past lives read by two different individuals on two seperate occasion. The main theme that seem to run within both readings is that in my past lives have been a bit of a martyr as would consistantly be attempting to teach others how to open their minds to possiblities only to be riduculed and in some cases stoned for it. Seems as though that trend still flows in this life.
By interweaving obvious trait types, something a basic psy student would be able to do. A regressionalist can custom manufacture a prersona to appeal to the individual. Getting a degree in psyology is hard, getting a certification for doing past life regression is easy, so is past life regression an alternative to Psyco thearipy? Is it not sometimes the emotional, and not the spirit?
That as well has always been a curiousity of mine, I alwasy felt (which I may even be wrong) That the interests we have lead back into a different time.. Such as an example, My interest and passion has always been egypt, the myths, culture and so on.. I hope you find the answer you seek..
An interesting read Beastt17, it's just that I don't agree.
Oh, I've said that before.
Nevertheless, even as you believe your truths are worth repeating, so I do mine.
If you check out the archives you will find a few good threads on different realities, and what people think about them.
It seems I may not have not made myself clear , so I will post this again.
If you check out the archives you will find a few good threads on different realities, and what people think about them
That's fine, Sinora. But to do so is a futile redundancy. I've already engaged several in their concepts of reality, including you, and see that the only argument presented is, "I disagree".
The Pope disagreed with Galileo. Galileo had the objective evidence and he was right; just as has been the case in EVERY instance where subjective assertion has come up against objective evidence.
To hold out hope that one might be the first example in all of man's recorded history to actually have their subjective assertions confirmed and objective evidence shown to be false is to both ignore the reality, and to suggest that objective evidence has a sentience, an agenda, and the ability to lie.
No you are quite wrong, I have in the past said why I disagree.
Your fondess for Galileo may be an indication of one of your one past lives...food for thought.
Re : Not to mention the hordes of people who claim they were Cleopatra or Julius Caesar in a past life. If past lives did exist, why is no one willing to speculate that they were no one of any significance whatsoever? I've never heard anyone say "I think I was a bum, living on a street corner in my past life." It's ALWAYS royalty, spiritual leaders, or someone closely related to them. I wonder why that is...?
The word ALWAYS is hardly the case I would think.
For the record.....I was not famous by any means in the past life I recall.
I have no fondness for Galileo. I know little to nothing about the man's character and personality traits. The example; on the other hand, proves quite appropriate for the discussion. He had objective evidence and yet he was humiliated and imprisoned by those who felt that their "personal evidence" (which really means "subjective opinion"), should be weighed more heavily than objective evidence.
We've had almost 400-years to learn from that lesson and some of us have. Others have simply refused to learn from that. Nor have they learned from the treatment of Giordano Bruno, or any of the other thousands of examples where objective evidence has been confirmed to be correct while subjective opinion has been wrong. The "personal evidence" referred to is nothing more than the very same kind of coincidence which leads people to adopting any other superstition. See a black cat, then trip on the next curb and break a toe and proclaim it as a "personal experience" when you tie the two together and you've not discovered or confirmed anything. It's just superstition.
People have a long, sick and twisted history of accepting random coincidence as a supposed pattern of great meaning. It has lead to tossing children into volcanoes, cutting the beating heart from a person's chest, the torturous killing of countless animals, wars, persecution, slavery, theft and hordes of other heinous misdeeds.
Unfortunately, we still find people clinging to such unsupportable ideas and even flinging insults toward those who would point out to them that never has there ever been a single case where such "personal evidence" ever proved to be correct without the benefit of supporting objective evidence. And the vast bulk of the objective evidence runs against this claim rather than in support of it.
We have people subscribing to hundreds (more probably, "thousands"), of different versions of supposed spirituality, many which contain vast differences. And in each case, we find some supposed punishment for not subscribing to these beliefs and a reward for subscribing to them, neither of which are to materialize until after one dies. And quite likely not by coincidence, what people are prompted to accept is usually beneficial to those insisting that they do so. And yet with all of those who claim to contact spirits, recall past lives, cross over into spirituality and then back again, there is still not one shred of solid objective evidence by which to do other than rationally conclude that these beliefs are other than the many (almost countless), failed myths which came before them.
If a billion people drive their cars off a 1,000-foot cliff, confident in the idea that they will come to no harm and yet every single one of them dies, I would not consider it inappropriate to refer to those still intentionally driving themselves over the edge in stubborn insistence that this time will be different, as being highly closed-minded, highly immersed in emotionalism and somewhat dangerous to others.
Some simply refuse to learn anything for which they hold a subjective dislike and will even evade questions when the answers they would have to supply leaves the failure of their ideas clearly exposed.
wee beast some valued points in your post, yet we must realize that all are different in all walks of life, and like you stated the thousands spent on religious writings, true yet we ponder to say that millions are spent on scientific explorations that sometimes are not used or debunked cases.
Society rationalize each in their own mind. some believe in past life experiences dreams that seem so real that it almost depicts past life expeirence. I have been looking for a published book I had on the scientific structure ans analises of this study and the cases that could not be debunked by scientist, yet my library si somewhat a miss as of latley. so i shall post it when found.
we must rationalize others beliefs or willingness to say that " I hope there was something before and after death and life" To each is their own. and words that i give or you will not change this belief.
Lessons ?
History teaches us many lessons, some of which we chose to learn and some we don't.
Those lessons do not only help in the material sense, but also in the spiritual.
I quite understand you refute God, but please do not think that your examples prove that those who love God are not learning from the same lessons as those who do not.
One cannot love that with which they do not have contact. One can love the idea of Leprechauns and even think them real. But to state that one loves a Leprechaun is a statement clearly devoid of any credibility. It's being in love with an idea, not an entity.
All through man's history there have been assertions that things exist for which there is no supporting objective evidence. Never have any of these propositions found fruition -- not one. That should be found to be highly significant, even to the most hard-headed and closed-minded of individuals. The same type of assertions played out thousands of times and yet, the one thing that never fails is that those propositions which lack supporting objective evidence are never found to be true.
As for loving and learning; history also shows a very bloody, hatred-filled history for those who proclaim love of unevidenced entities. I would suggest that it's better to look to actual examples than to subscribe to beliefs which have consistently failed and lead to hatred and murder rather than love and learning.
Can anyone refute the natural draw people have to Nostalgia?
I think this has a strong place in the popularity of past life regression.
Wanting not only to study history, but to relate? The feeling of being out of your era..
all the catchy phrases past life advertisments use.
Can any believers of past life regression post a summary of what is to gain from a past life regression, in my searching I find an alluding to after you have your regression we will intrprete the results.
The difference between dreaming, and self interpretation, does that require books? As opposed to visiting a regressionalist?
In my most prominent remembrances, I was a crippled orphan during the times of Charles Dickens and a Roman legionaire of no great fame. So much for want of being Ceasar, Marie Antoinete or Cleopatra. Those are pure "fantasy"...
Leo
i asked someone here on the website
she told my past life by looking at my hand
and she was right.. i went to other people and sights
just look around and you will find it
sometimes things happen in this life that happened in your past life and it is like deja vu when you experience it
i have ...
Re : The difference between dreaming, and self interpretation, does that require books? As opposed to visiting a regressionalist?
Dabbler I think the main thing is exploration of self here.
Those who have the money may visit a regressionalist, I never have so I can't comment on that.
I'm all for learning as much as I can without spending cash .....libraries etc.
I've just stumbled upon an interesting phenomenon, and it may have a definite tie-in with past-life memories. This happens to me a lot, but I only just now considered it in this context.
This morning, I distinctly remembered something my mother was telling me about wines and something about 1995 being a good year. The actual conversation is irrelevant and probably untrue anyway, but what IS important is that the conversation never happened. Oftentimes, I'll remember things that I dreamed, even weeks or more after the dream actually occurred. By this time, the dream is so hazy that only specific pictures or words are left, and they present themselves as memories indistinguishable from things that actually happened. This has also generated a feeling of deja vu in certain situations. Does this mean that I had a prophetic dream and foresaw being in a certain situation before it happened? Probably not. There's an interesting article I found that explains the physical mechanisms behind deja vu:
http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2007/deja-vu-0607.html
But what's interesting and important about this (I think,) is that some memories we have, that can be aroused during past-life regressions, among other states of mind (drugs have brought out these memories in me at times), can very well be dreams that we've had in the past, that we previously didn't remember, and are indistinguishable from memories of real events.
I'd appreciate any input on this, as I haven't really had much time to look into it. I just thought it was interesting to bring up, as it ties in rather well to past-life memories and deja vu.
You may not think so, but I'd be more inclined to support such a thought. When I've had such dreams, at least in my case, that's what happened.
Leo
My problem with that is (and I really wish I could still find that article) that when our short-term memories, like dreams, are transferred to our long-term memory, only certain elements are "stored", while the rest of the details are largely replaced subconsciously. The article I'm still looking for explained this in amazing detail. Because long-term memories are often incomplete, elements that are familiar in our current environment bring up feelings of deja vu, and because the memory of the dream (in this case) is incomplete, we feel like the entire thing happened before.
Well as with so many of the threads on this site it seems someone feels the need to wage a one man war against all things he does not believe in.
However there is some interesting material on the subject out there. In Mary Roach's book, Spook, I believe she talks about the possibility of perceived past life experiences being a type of genetic memory. A concept I find fascinating. However it seems there isn't really any kind of concrete way to "discover" your past lives, though there are a lot of theories and suggestions out there.
I say try them all until you get it right and let us know how it turns out.
There is our search for geneology as well.
By proxy past life mimics genology, only more abstract.
It appears from the sessions I watch to plot and deveop role development
That is just my observation on some 8 sessions with like three different regressionalist.
Self paced exploreation, maybe a few theatric experiece, changing era, and occupation, you can click a role/ persona. Take notes from classic novels
Nostalgia if not a past life experience is an emotion often neglected.
One cannot subscribe to personal subjectivity and make a credible claim to value truth. The two are simply not compatible. This has been confirmed so many times that it's hard to believe that some people remain unaware of the reality.
· Placebo-effect: (confirmed)
· Power of Suggestion: (confirmed)
· False memories: (confirmed)
· Myriads of "the one truth" religions
Study after study after study... all confirm the same thing - personal subjectivity does not point to truth. Objectivity does point to truth.
And there is no objective verification for the idea of past lives, spirits, souls, ghosts or any other form of continued sentience beyond death.
Yes I know that's what you think and believe, and you know what I think and believe.
To continue to repeat these things will not change what I think and believe on this matter.
If your purpose is to 'enlighten' me, then I will thank you for your efforts and tell you that for the most part I enjoy reading your posts.
Re :Re: "Yes I know that's what you think and believe, and you know what I think and believe.
To continue to repeat these things will not change what I think and believe on this matter."
Actually it is exactly what this thread is all about....what people think and believe.
A question was asked, people...( mostly you and I ) have given answers, I rather think that's what is expected, though if you wish to add....
Thinking and believing don't lead to truth, Sinora. It never has. People here (I assume), are interested in the truth. Or do you suppose they just want to banter back and forth regarding fallacies and fantasies?
What leads to truth has been established many times over. People continue to believe in contrast to what has been shown to be true but that's not going to change what is and isn't true. It never has.
People arrived at the idea of volcano gods by subscribing to subjective belief. They concluded that they must toss their members and children into open craters by subscribing to subjective belief. People arrived at the confirmable conclusion of vulcanology by applying objective analysis. Which one was right? If you "believe" that volcanoes are a sign of an angry god, does that change anything about the veracity of vulcanology?
People arrived at the idea that disease and mental illness were caused by evil spirits by subscribing to subjective belief. Eventually, objective analysis demonstrated that disease is caused by microbes and/or genetic defects, not by evil spirits. You know which one was right. It doesn't matter if you disbelieve what you know. It's still the truth.
The list of such examples goes on, and on, and on. And the one consistency we find is that never has anyone arrived at truth by subscribing to subjective belief where subjective belief was at odds with objective analysis. You know that. And yet you come forward subscribing to subjective belief (AKA: "personal experience"), and then proclaim to value truth. The two simply don't work together, no matter what you believe.
And it is about what's true, and not just what people believe. People have been plagued with false beliefs for the duration of human existence. Why would anyone subscribing to the same methods which always failed in the past, suppose for an instant, that they were the least bit interested in truth?
I was talking about what you think and beieve, as an individual, indeed what we all of us think and belive.
The purpose of the original post was not so much to delve into where one finds one's truth or indeed how, though you have been generous enough to share that with us.
Re: From the Opening Post: "Please tell how you discovered your own or advice on where to start."
The key words here are....."your own", that's what people give, insights into their own understanding.
Where they find their that really is up to them.
Wow...well if the original poster ever makes it down this far...look into Edgar Cayce. There are some interesting pieces on past lives and reincarnation.
I think this was mentioned earlier but it's an interesting thought...it could be that during past life regression therapy, we're mistaking past lives with dreams. Perhaps what we think are past lives are simply us accessing stored memory of dreams. I know I've had some wild dreams and many times I don't remember the dreams at all.
As for the off topic bickering...it's a speculative subject which is going to receive a ton of subjective answers. While offering objective, well stated evidence on the contrary is highly informative and keeps the discussion in perspective, stating it over and over and over again is beating a dead horse and can be perceived as combative. Stating that an idea has no evidence to support it...
Every...
Single...
Time (blantant attempt at mockery)
bogs down the speculative discussion (and yes put me down for wanting to banter about fallacies). By no means am I suggesting your comments are not welcome. It's certainly not my place to decide that. In fact, I enjoy reading them...most of the time. However, they can be a bit of a buzz kill ;)
ive tried hypnosis, and meditations to learn about my past. in one i was recorded speaking a language that i dont speak! if that was my imagination, then i have a really cool one indeed!
that said, you just need to try different things and see what works for you.
So then you'd be willing to conclude that church denominations who speak in tongues must be following the "one true religion"?
You have a recording?
See after watching taped sessions myself, most monitored by "guides" , I would be interested in listening to such a phenomenal presentation.
uh....no, and frankly i dont understand how you came up with that conclusion. i would say that they are potentially valid, at least for those that are doing the speaking. you have to understand that im a bit of a pan-theist, and think there is something to almost all belief systems. the primary thing i look for "validity wise" would be whether or not it fills a need in the adherent.
that aside, what does that have to do with past lives?
pax yall.
I've had two friends with insight into these matters explain to me what they've seen as my past lives. They'd both seen similar images, and yet never talked to each other about them as far as I know.
I wish to speak thusly on this subject. I believe that time is much more fluid than we give it credit in this form we inhabit. I also believe that we need to give constructive help, not denigrating opinion. If the opinion is helpful then wonderful if not, then I feel in this forum we should not speak of it. I believe for those that are sensitive enough to feel, dream, and remember said memories that is a gift and cannot always be understood or respected. I will say that the past is a strength to me, I do live in the present but it does not hurt to indulge good memories.
Psycologist make note of cases involving people that had numerous sessions with past life regressionalist, noting also that past life regressionalist usually have records for violations in clinical psyco thearepy, I did some infield research, and talked to a geneologist who viewed the material, she said regressionalist have good history skills, and would make good geneologist with training.
Re: "uh....no, and frankly i dont understand how you came up with that conclusion."
"Well frankly, I didn't. I simply extrapolated the reasoning you seemed to be applying to your experience regarding hypnosis. If speaking a language doesn't realize they know how to speak is conclusive evidence of past lives, then why wouldn't it also be conclusive evidence of a connection with a one true god?"
thats alot of extrapolation. sort of like extrapolating that if a poisonous snake lives in a particular pond, then all animals in that pond must therefore be poisonous snakes. i had an experience and since that experience was in the context of past life regression, i think it lends credence to it. if someone going to a particular church is able to speak a lingo that he/she previously didnt know, then perhaps that is a sign of the intervention of a diety.
i dont see how there could be any evidence of a "one true god" as miraculous events are associated with almost every belief system known to mankind.
if you have another idea of how i might instantly learn a foreign lingo, please tell me...i want to sell the idea to roseta stone and make a mint!
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Re: "what does that have to do with past lives?"
"How does it have any more or less to do with them when you made the assertion that speaking a foreign language you didn't know you could speak? You're using the utterance of language unknown to the speaker to assert that they must have lived a past life and that's the unusual assertion. "
again, its the context. when it occurs during a regression, it does make me go "hmmmmmm".
i suppose my question would be that since this ends up being something of a faith issue, if you dont agree with the assertion, why waste all the time and effort to openly disagree with others?
but hey...if it makes ya feel better, enjoy.
"Church denominations who speak in languages unknown to the speakers assert that it's a sign from their god. Why is one assertion valid but not the other?"
some people think the kennedy assassination was a conspiracy.....some people think that the moon landings was a conspiracy.....
if one, ergo the other.....
very flawed logic mi amigo. Why is one assertion valid but not the other? perhaps a better question is why the validity of one would have any effect on the validity of the other.
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Re: "you just need to try different things and see what works for you."
"Firstly, one should probably determine the definition of "works" as presented in such a statement."
i think each individual should determine that. its the whole point of the comment. im not enough of an ego maniac to define what works for others.
LordWolf, I like ya, but there are a few problems with some of what you're saying. I'm sure Beastt will address it himself anyway, but there are a few problems with your reasoning.
thats alot of extrapolation. sort of like extrapolating that if a poisonous snake lives in a particular pond, then all animals in that pond must therefore be poisonous snakes.
More accurately, it would be like a person seeing a poisonous snake in a pond and assuming it lives there, then another person seeing the same snake in another pond and assuming it lives there instead. The idea of speaking in tongues has been used as 'evidence' of past lives to some (you) and it has been used as evidence of following the 'true faith'.
i had an experience and since that experience was in the context of past life regression, i think it lends credence to it. if someone going to a particular church is able to speak a lingo that he/she previously didnt know, then perhaps that is a sign of the intervention of a diety. i dont see how there could be any evidence of a "one true god" as miraculous events are associated with almost every belief system known to mankind.
'Having an experience' is interesting enough, but it doesn't necessarily confirm anything. There's a problem with this though. People 'speak in tongues' at churches all over the world, but it's most often churches that believe their one denomination is the one true faith, and that their god has specifically laid out their religion. So we have a bit of a contradiction here. Either there are deities fighting over something as petty as being the 'one true god' or they're fucking with people. Neither one lends much credence to the idea. If people are having these not-so-miraculous experiences for a number of religious reasons, we might want to look into the cause of these fits in the first place.
if you have another idea of how i might instantly learn a foreign lingo, please tell me...i want to sell the idea to roseta stone and make a mint!
I don't know the cause of 'speaking in tongues', since I'm far from an expert, but something I can suggest that doesn't involve anything mystical: you hear a phrase, or even a few lines or more in a certain language. You don't understand them, but the syllables stay in your short-term memory for a while. Eventually, they passed into your long-term memory and are buried in your subconscious. Weeks, months, years later, you see a regressionist, expecting to uncover a past life, and expecting something 'cool' or miraculous. You get hypnotized, and old memories resurface. You speak out the snippet you heard that one time, not necessarily aware of where it came from (that's all been forgotten), and your expectations have been fulfilled. Nothing more to see here, you've just spoken a language you only knew in a past life. It doesn't necessarily confirm the existence of a past life, or the existence of a god.
Now ^^^ that is PURELY speculation, so if someone who knows more about the mechanisms of memory and the mind than I do can show that not to be a possibility, I'd be glad to hear it.
Since this person is asking for help discovering methods to recall their past lives, at some point it just becomes bothersome for the skeptics to continue jumping up and done calling nay.
We get it, you don't believe, that's your right. However some people on here clearly do believe and that is their right. So if you don't have anything helpful or nice to say, maybe you just shouldn't say anything at all.
I'm tired of having to skip over massively long posts that blather on about logic and fact and recite the same argument over and over again.
If there is the possibility that somebody had stated a really interesting theory or point on the topic who would be able to pick it out of this mess.
No Beastt17, what I meant was to take this :
ive tried hypnosis, and meditations to learn about my past. in one i was recorded speaking a language that i dont speak! if that was my imagination, then i have a really cool one indeed!
that said, you just need to try different things and see what works for you.
Then to suppose that lordwolf alluding to any "one true religion" etc was too great a leap.
A lot of past life recollection occurs subconsciously, and through dreams. Many things just feel like deja vu but... they probably aren't ;)
most people find out about their past lives by pure accident,be it a dream or a thought that keeps coming to you as a past memmory that occured but never happened in the current lifetime,i have heard stories of parents asking their kids that were age 3-5 about their past life and the children would explain in some detail of another life,a good way to find ones past life in transgressions would be hypnotism by a professional.
Children will also often tell you of their invisible friends, their flying imaginary dog and the monster in the closet. That's why stories by themselves are without any objective compelling value. They are only found to be of value by those who have already decided that the claim is true and have closed their minds to any other possibility.
When a child openly disagrees with us, then they're "just a child". But if a child agrees with us in areas where other adults often don't, then the implication is put forth that the child has some special ability, special insight or is more in-tuned to a supposed special knowledge. They're children. They have yet to come to an understanding of reality because their experience is more limited. Attempting to present them as having special gifts adults don't have, or have to lesser degree is completely contrary to the evidence.
Yes, agreed, kids are the most psychic, but yea, at a young age. I was just reading about that how we are the most psychic until around 6 I think it was. So ask a kid who they were before they were this person. Or who knows, ask who YOU were. Might be interesting what they say!
I feel personally telling a child that they have past lives is right up there with telling a child they have multiple personality, youre paving the way for dissacotive dissorder, imagine a child that is told they have past lives relating that fact to other kids.. Yea cry about how other people need to learn to tolerate beliefs.. But kids are mean to kids that stand out vocally.
Being around other peoples kids shows me how children led their parents to believe they have more then a token interest in their
Newest new age interest, my mom did crafts..
put it this way....i dont consider what i did to be speaking in tongues i once went to a pentecostal church and speaking in tongues is gibberish.
i cant explain what happened to me, but my mind is open, and i have seen some very good evidence of past lives.
that said, im hear to discuss things that have occurred to myself or others and attempt to understand them, not to just ridicule them.
ive said this before...if you dont believe something, then why the intense need to tell someone you think they are wrong?
if i read a post that i think is horse shit, i generally just think to myself that there is a strong smell of manure here, move on, and not step in it. i dont sit up late at night looking for something online i disagree with to pounce on it.
just my two cents worth, if you disagree thats fine, but dont feel you have to share it with me.
I find alluding to people that accept more rational explsimation for what others call past life I'd being ridiculed, or ignored.
I see few here that account any depth as to how past life regression applied to their life, I hear post in other past life threads repeated, I see responses to presented considerations that are past off, and intepreted for past life. How is that ridicule? I hear the same pitches, all with a personal signature, then if someone presents anything other then agreement they expand on the complexity of their former account.
It can be agreed by believers, and nonbeiivers that not all who claim to
"guide such regressions".
There is more than opinion involved here and in most other discussions implicating the paranormal or supernatural. And that's perhaps at the crux of most of these discussions. On one side there is conjecture, on the other side, clear hard evidence. It may be only a matter of opinion on one side, but certainly not both.
so for those that seem to delight in taking shots at those that feel they have a reason to believe in past lives, do any of you have any past life experiences to relate, or are you simply here in order to be the oh so intellectual skeptic?
Those that believe in past life regressions, and ven those who practice past life regression, argue among themselves as to who is more qualified to do such thing, I have seen out right bashing by one person
who claimed to do past life readings bashing on on-line readers.
I have seen posturing in every field of "psychic" matters, A person simply believeing is not enough, they have to believe, then accept the popular "understanding", just like those who Identify as Vampires take shots at each others,
So my question is. What Does past life mean to you?
Spending 75 dollars a session?
Buying a Popular DIY book?
One that will likely disagree with another teacher/instructor. When responding to cynics I can see being offended. But the skeptic is another animal all together.
Even Believers "take shots" at each other, the Archives show this well.
Well, it is little may be hard work for revoking past life memories or vision. one can go through vision only and vision is only the source of finding past life and its hard path coz it take a lot of days to bring into practice.
In vision what you do that you search the answer to the quest in thoughtless postion visual way in your vision and yes with close eyelids cz open eyelid drains the energy for beginers, i was the beginer whe was doing test exercise when i tried with open eye lids it made me fall on the bed within 4-5 minutes.
(Bows in reverence)
Honorable Dabler I placed my opinion that it can be possible through vision and sorcery and nothing is concerned to the past lives more than the vision work.
There is one method mmy one friend being teacher se was teaching me on vision, i did try on fourth day with open eye lid and that drained my energy very fast even that fast vampire could not suck my energy. I was simply tired and no power in my body to keep sitting on chair and i pulled my chair to bed and fell on it to rest and could not stand for an hour least. I was graceless immediately after the start of exercise within 5 minutes. and with close eyelid i could surf the vision as much as I did and even more. in close eye lid I used to search for 45 minutes, you wont believe it but it was astral planes of vision. vision in which you wont move your celestial body and only eyes watches all. and astral you fly or go astral with celestial body.
for me past life is simply who i was before i was ...me.
as for the research, im open to various methods, but i think different methods will work at differing levels for different people. lucky for me the regression that i had was done by a friend for free. perhaps it was all my subconscious, i dont discount that, but it was very cool.
Was that something you would have paid 70 dollars for? Would you consider going "deeper" back?
How has your sitting applied to your current existence?
Was that the one that you where recorded speaking in a forieng tongue? What tongue was it?
Did you keep the recording?
Personally I don't really want to know about my past lives, in case they were traumatic and would negatively affect me in this life. I have had dreams which I believe were memories of past lives, and I have scried in candles and seen images of what I believe were from a past life.
I would like to be able to find out if I had a past life or not. I don't think that everybody has had a life before the one you are in now.
No one knows for sure whether reincarnation exists, but there are at least a handful of scientists who have studied this -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reincarnation#Scientific_research
Assuming that we do reincarnate, there would be an obvious reason for not remembering past lives -- people would act differently if they knew that they would get unlimited opportunities to try again.
As in the case of a play or a movie, it's less fun to participate if you keep reminding yourself that it's only entertainment.
I don't disagree with the sceptics who correctly point out that the scientific evidence is far from strong. But I also sympathize with those who intuitively believe in reincarnation, and hope that they are correct.
Well there are different ways about finding out what things happened in a past life. There are many books on the subject and there are several websites. The best one I can tell you is to go into your community and see if there is someone in the community who can actually help you go back. If you are ever in the Central Arkansas area let me know. We have a lady here that does them. She is very helpful
I've always wondered about this as well. I have certain "obsessions" that I have had for many many years, and paticular for one period of time.
I've always wondered "Why?"
I would love to talk with someone some day and see if there is a link.
I believe in past lifes, so I would be curious to learn more.
Well for the Author of the thread I would say, try all the opinions and advice people gave you here along with the links, they look pretty interesting; the only link related to this topic in my life is just a personal visions of a friend with psychic abilities among other things. she claimed that I was a general in 2 of my past lives one in Asia aC and the other in Egyptian bC times and some details of my wife leaving me in one of them and that I ended up committing suicide from personal conflicts among other thins haha, pretty weird huh!, I really don’t know if this are credible and accurate statements, but to be honest I do feel I’m not from this era, and none of the labors in present times really triggers my excitement in job prospects, maybe the most closest I would find fitting for my interest would be a strategist, then again i would never serve the US government ideas of liberty. The thinking of not belonging on the present time period was one of the main reasons I recurred to this reading I believe you could start by mapping questions like that presented also in a earlier reply.
Also, if you are going to try with someone with psychic abilities as I did, don’t say anything about why you came there or reasons or whatever, just say a reading of my past life, don't say the whole I don’t feel from this time shit I just said for example, you will find many surprises, depending of the people you attend and his/her abilities.
ok..first off, people who say that they are cleopatra are obviously delusional. i on the other hand really am gaius julius caesar! LOL (ok kids, thats a joke for the humor challenged).
there are several documented examples of phenomina that might not be proof of reencarnation, but if not are certainly proof of something very odd.
one example was on the news in north eastern ohio about 4 years ago.
a kid about 6 and his mom were being interviewed. apparently when the kid was about 3 his mom and he walked by a toy store...the mom pointed out an airplane with something sticking out of the wing. she asked her son if he saw the machine gun in the wing....his response was "oh mom, thats not a machine gun, its a pitot tube. ( a tube that allows for the measure of air speed). as the years passed, he over time told his mom how he was a pilot in the war, and the japs shot him down over some island (that she had never heard of).
he even identified his old squadron and his wingman. mom found out a not long afterwards that the squadron was having a reunion and she attended. she met the man that was the "wing man" (he existed) and when asked about the man that the kid said he was, he said that he did exist, and that he died just as the kid said.
after this point the kids "memories" of his past life started to fade.
after writing this (i first heard this story as i said, a few years back) i decided to look and see if i could find any more info about it.
i found this link. my suggestion...just read this with an open mind. not suggesting that it should be so open your brain falls out, but just open.
i have read a number of accounts, and personally im convenced.
your milage may vary
~Wolf~
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ok...here is the link.
http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/Technology/Story?id=894217&page=1
cheers!
~W~