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Apocalypse

How do I see an apocalypse? Hopefully with humanity's end.

Extinction or other major disasters are necessary to the world because not only does it lower the population or outright removes but it can leave room for evolution, death is not an end, but potentially a big bang for a new life form.

Usually its nature that decides to sweep the board clean so to speak but Humans with their dangerously techno-evolving ways, especially in chemical, biological and nuclear weapons will no doubt cause an apocalypse themselves.

Which would actually be fine except humans would leave long last collateral negative damage in their wake which would likely kill off more than just themselves

Nature in many ways is similar to a computer system that you so like to emulate Lazarus, in that nature can upgrade by "uninstalling" previous life forms though I would hardly call you hairless talking apes an upgrade, intelligence potential is high but physically, you lot would struggle to live in the wild and said intelligence is often misused for greed and sometimes pointless purposes.

Humanity's end is one of my desires and that is no secret but I do acknowledge that humans are creation of nature just like any other, so I would settle for one hell of a major shake up so bad that humanity would be severely discouraged to go down their past path (current at the moment) ever again which would be an ideal apocalypse, perhaps also 1/3 of human population being decimated.

Coven Mistress,

I too used to hold out hope that even despite a Nuclear War mankind would find away to survive, hang out until the Solar System clock itself ran out.

An apocalypse is a beginning as well as an end, Humanity could have a second chance once the dust clears so to speak.

Without a doubt. Even in a post apocalyptic scenario without machines, I believe any potential survivor generations of mankind would still evolve. Extinction level events have this way of raising the stakes. The conditions go from, 'it was all good just a week ago', to 'survive or die', real quick.

I go for a demons take over. With the possession, which is happening every day, IE Chicago, mean, humans will kill each other and at the end, Demons will reign the earth.

I thought it was uniquely strange that the original definition of the word has no negative connotation.

And with respect to that point in regard to a second coming:

Gerbils... the end of times will be brought about by our furry little friend, the common Gerbil, they're cute and make that funny little noise which is sort of a half squeak half fart type deal so yeah, I'm going with Gerbils.

Ah those small appetisers that come before a very human shaped and sized meal? now that would be something to see.
Likely mankind will be bringing about their own end without nature's help.

Sims and reality is quite different though I enjoy the sims a lot, I always find creative ways to kill them, starvation, fire and drowning etc.

In seriousness, disease may become a cause for an apocalypse.

Perhaps she has....
tsunamis and hurricanes anyone? haha. I will stand by her when she unleashes more disasters that is for sure.

Mind if I Sci Fi for a spell...?

In 2075 after having securing treatments for the majority of cancers, and curing AIDs , rogue medical scientist operating on super grants set to completely cure cancer and to revitalize those that succumbed to it. Since brain cancer turned out to be the stubborn cancer that defied treatments, and failed to go into remission as other types had. Extremely well to do families funded research. Unsavory , shady medical groups applied uncredited nano tech , and other illogical methods to conducting unsanctioned test on both living, and deceased brain cancer patients, patients that both had natural occurring cancer, and patients intentionally inflicted with cancer.

A nano formula was introduced to the nerve system of the patient the nano organisms then attacked the cancer. People became cured actually. They proceeded to make what they called a vaccine against cancer, wealthy families as well as shady insurance companies got people lining up to get what became known as Nano Guard Infusions. but at what long term cost? Eventually the horrific discovery was made. A patient with the cure died from a falling accident. Pronounced dead ! However the nano still existed in their body, took over and reanimated the corpse... thus hinting at the potential for what would become of those "vaccinated" .

So while people say that science is "just meddling in nature". It should be noted that pseudoscience is the culprit that cuts corners, and forgos peer review , and it is unsavory medical professionals that violate the Hypa Oath, all to get access to grants, and foundation money. What sucks is that legit science, and medical practices get flak.

I would call them "Husks" since they body is active but their mind and "soul" for a lack of a better word would be gone. Just an empty shell roaming around fulfilling base instincts such as hunger.

Coven Mistress,

Yes that is correct, Philadelphia. Try to imagine my surprise as I re-read over that verse those first 6 or 7 times. And oh it gets worse:

What was Jesus’ message to the church in Philadelphia in Revelation?.

Did you know that if is the middle word in Life? :o)

"What if?" terrible words apparently followed by "could"

Plenty of disasters have happened because someone wondered what if, what if they could do this, or that. etc.

You know I would not mind a zombie apocalypse, cliched I know but its looks so much fun.

Coven Mistress,

What stood out most to me was how the summary sites the notion that the rapture and second coming are two separate events. Which wouldn't seem so unique if the Revelation of Paul had made the final cut, but I digress.

The apocalypse is anyone's guess, it could come in a number of forms and every one of them none to pleasant to us here and now. But perhaps what is an apocalypse for us, is just a grande new beginning for something else...whatever that something else may be.

Well said Ray.

I often suspect, that the bang started it all for us, ended it all for something previous.

Imagine your neighborhood today, if the dinosaurs never ran into that meteor though.

I think that the apocalypse with come at mans hand. We have enough nuclear weapons in space to blow this planet up 20 times over.

If not for that then it will be either chemical or biological warfare that will do it. How long has it been since some one has seen the plague? We have it and so do 25 other countries.

Our end will will be met by our own hand. That is my opinion.

I believe it will come at mankind's doing as well Grue.

And yes Laz, Jurassic Park all over again. lol!

Carlin said it best I think.



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"Haven't we done enough. We're so self-important. So self-important. Everybody's gonna save something now. Save the trees. Save the bees. Save the whales. Save those snails. And the greatest arrogance of all, save the planet. What? Are these farking people kidding me? Save the planet? We don't even know how to take care of ourselves yet. We haven't learned to take care of one another and we're gonna save the farking planet. I'm getting tired of that shiat. I'm tired of Earth Day. I'm tired of these self-righteous environmentalists. These white bourgeois liberals who think the only thing wrong with this country is there aren't enough bicycle paths. People trying to make the world safe for their Volvos. Besides environmentalists don't give a shit about the planet, they don't care about the planet. Not in the abstract they don't. You know what they're interested in? A clean place to live. They're own habitat. They're worried some day in the future they may be personally inconvenienced."

"Besides, there is nothing wrong with the planet. Nothing wrong with the planet. The planet is fine. We, on the other hand, are screwed. Difference. The planet is fine. Compared to the people the planet is doing great. Been here four and a half billion years. You ever think about the arithmetic? Planet has been here four and a half billion years and we've been here what, a hundred thousand, maybe two hundred thousand. And we've only been engaged in heavy industry for around two hundred years. Two hundred years versus four and a half billion, and we have the conceit to some how think we're a threat. That some how we're gonna put into jeopardy this beautiful little blue green ball that's just a floating around the sun. The planet has been through a lot worse than us. Been through all kinds of things worse than us. Been through earthquakes, volcanoes, plate tectonics, continental drift, solar flares, sun spots, magnetic storms, the magnetic reversal of the poles, hundreds of thousands of years of bombardments by comets and asteroids and meteors, world wide floods, tidal waves, world wide fires, erosion, cosmic rays, recurring ice ages, and we think some plastic bags and some aluminum cans are going to make a difference. The planet isn't going anywhere. We are. We're going away. Pack your shit folks. We're going away and we won't leave much of a trace either. Thank god for that. Maybe a little Styrofoam. Maybe. The planet will be here and we'll be long gone. Just another failed mutation. Just another closed end biological mistake. An evolutionary cul-des-ac. The planet will shake us off like a bad case of fleas. A surface nuisance. You want to know how the planet's doing? Ask those people in Pompeii who are frozen into position from volcano ash how the planet's doing. Want to know if the planet's alright just ask those people in Mexico City, or Armenia or a hundred other places buried under thousands of tons of earthquake rubble if they feel like a threat to a planet this week."

George Carlin

So what's the next apocalypse date? Anyone know?

Brother Shadow Wolf!

The Nuclear Arms Race aka that big ass elephant in the room lol

On the bright side, it would take an estimated 100 nuclear detonations to trigger a Nuclear winter.

And then again:
"Nine countries in the world possess a total of 15,375 nuclear weapons. The United States and Russia account for 93 percent of them."

An irradiated wasteland, not the most original scenario.

The end of the world doesn't actually have to mean the end of the world in a literal sense, most times an apocalypse is a merely a devastating occurrence that changes things radically, with some big events like genocide happening or some new evolution etc

Coven Mistress,

Nice find! I honestly did not notice that. Easter seems to move around a bit on the calendar and it didn't even cross my mind.

Creepy AF though.

If man disappeared, the world would become highly irradiated, the nuclear power plants which contain the cooling ponds which the nuclear fuel rods are stored in, would run dry thus causing the meltdown and eruption and release of radioactive particles.

Well I will start by saying that apocalypse is a relative term, what will end us may not, and most likely will not end everything. Insects would survive a man mad Nuclear Holocaust. Not all animals would be affected by pathogens. Life is robust enough to survive most space born threats beyond a gamma burst or the Sun exploding.

So when we say apocalypse are we even talking aboit the end of humans or most humans??

Example:
A massive solar flare (which do happen yearly) would put most of the world back to the 16th and 17th century if it came straight at us.
We live in a globalized economy where everything is on demand and requires electricity. The US government did a study in 2013, the CDC and DHS found that without the advantages of our electrically drive modern infastructer there would be no running water, no large scale food distribution and no utilities for at least several years... possible even a decade.
They eatimated that 90% of the current 350 million citizens would die of starvation or the elements within 9 months. Most American would not make it through year one much less 10.
Globally they found similar results with approximately 86% fatality rate of the planets nearly 7 billion people.
And thats just if the lights went out... that much hardship would undoubtedly produce a second dark age.

So is 6.7 billion lives an apocalypse??
And science tells us that senerio is eventually going to happen to this planet... it is a matter of scale.

Has any checked these out? Let's say the end comes from space, Aliens:


Probably not aliens. Probably.

https://qz.com/884106/tabbys-star-alien-megastructures-and-planet-gobbling-a-strange-new-theory-may-finally-solve-the-mystery-of-an-alien-megastructure-that-has-confounded-scientists-for-months/

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Now, a useful clue towards solving this puzzle has been offered by Mohammed Sheikh, Richard Weaver, and Karin Dahmen from the University of Illinois at Urbana–Champaign [2]. The researchers analyzed the spectrum of fluctuations in the flux from Boyajian’s star over four years, finding that it followed a universal power-law characteristic of systems close to the critical point of a phase transition. While this result does not reveal the physical processes driving the brightness variations, it suggests that they might be associated with nonequilibrium phenomena occurring within the star, rather than with external orbiting structures.


Another hypothesis, also not involving aliens:

https://qz.com/884106/tabbys-star-alien-megastructures-and-planet-gobbling-a-strange-new-theory-may-finally-solve-the-mystery-of-an-alien-megastructure-that-has-confounded-scientists-for-months/


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Brian Metzger of Columbia University and his colleagues have instead put up the planet-gobbling theory. Planets don’t usually fall into their stars, but one could if, say, a large body like a comet knocked the planet out of its orbit and sent it to its doom. They reason that when a star swallows something as large as a planet, for a cosmologically short period, between 200 years and 10,000 years, its brightness increases as it burns away the planet’s matter. Then it would decline again. So if we happen to have started watching the star towards the end of such a period, it might explain the 14% fall in brightness over 100 years.

Also, an eaten-up planet could leave behind large debris, such as its moon or large pieces of the planet that for some reason weren’t sucked in. These large bodies could be passing in front of the star in orbit, blocking some of its light and causing the brief dips seen by the Kepler space telescope.

Severus,
There are no right or wrong answers here, especially since the word Apocalypse comes up with 3 different functional definitions in the OP.

They are trying to come up with the exact equation to measure the speed at which it gets worst out there. (Or here) Personally I think its the Speed of an African Swallow * Warp 9)/.5 past Lightspeed. I mean we HAVE a pink goo situation here -- it's called "life" and it is everywhere, but it hasn't eaten the planet and it's had billions of years. It's a pretty voracious self-replicator with a real knack for adaptivity. Or green goo. Meanwhile, back in the solar system, Pluto looks like popcorn and Ceres has the salt! I think that what will be left over after the Vogon Constructor Fleet comes through, Gah-Lak-Tus.

A world eater eh? lol
Well one day the sun is supposed to bring the end, that is if humanity doesn't do it sooner by creating and playing with black holes.

To me an apocalypse is not the end really but a new beginning.

I am going with black holes - be it man-made or natural. I just have this niggling feeling that we are all going to be torn asundered before our final and eventual demise. I don't know... for all the sins that we have committed. :)

For those who envision a black hole Apocalypse, it is my pleasure to inform you that the end has already begun. From the 'Playing G' thread:

This was a theory behind why the massive Hadron Particle Collider was built in the first place. Many believed it was being used to gather enough energy to create a tiny tear in the fabric of time and space by smashing particles together at a tremendous rate of speed to produce an entirely new particle which if enough were gathered would provide a sufficient amount of energy to produce such a tear. It wouldn't take much as black holes are infinitely powerful, just a black hole the size of the point of a needle would be more than enough to destroy the entire world. Scientists claimed that they have found a scientific formula that is supposed to prove that one could enter a black hole relatively unharmed but have yet to find a method of making this theoretical formula a physical possibility...or again, so they've claimed.

Well Umyalanaraku, a black hole is not the currant problem, and with things going as they are at the moment, some humans consider this to already be an apocalypse or at least the start of one.
Lack of resources is the current track towards an end (or a new beginning) population is way too high and there are not enough deaths to offset the rise. Countries would go to war over resources, so one lovely finale would be a world war that literally is about world, nukes would not be a good weapon of choices because using them make it all ironic since the resources but we destroyed or contaminated, well maybe not all.

A solution would be to purge 1/3 of humans from each country, and perhaps indulging in cannibalism. Meat is a fine resource and humans are just walking meat.

Bon appétit

ISO LI,

Quite right. Interesting. That was quicker than the others.

The domino effects you mention are what specifically became problematic for the previous dominant species of the planet. A big space rock strike can have massive consequences, the volcanic variety of which you have mentioned would be very likely. If the ash clouds hang around for a bit you are talking potential ice age. Earthquakes, the obvious point of impact. If the point of impact is ocean side, that could create tsunamis...

VHEMT which stands for Voluntary Human Extinction Movement, environmentalism taken to extreme...according to others, I find it a perfectly suitable way to aid earth. If the entire human population agree to this then that is an apocalypse that will definitely be a new beginning for earth.

Now there was this one guy tried something like that in the 70's